Happened at our table a couple of months back.

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    Semi-related fact: Knock and Speak With Animals are the best utility spells in Baldurs Gate 3, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

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      Utility ? No idea. But Speak with animals is so fucking hilarious that I will carry a class just for it because its that funny. I was sold the second I talked to the squirrels near the bard.

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        As far as I understand, “utility spell” is a category consisting of all spells that aren’t combat spells.

        I agree 💯 btw 😁

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      I haven’t used knock at all but the first thing I do after every long rest is apply speak with animals to my PC. I then talk to almost every animal I meet.

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        Raise your hand if you spoke to the guard bear again after saving the Grove, hoping that the xenophobe had changed its mind about you 🙋🏻

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          Maggran, I think? Maybe it’s a question of timing? I didn’t immediately move on after the festivities and ran into him in human form on the trail to the left of the entrance to the grove.

          I remember him thanking me. I more remember his mouth didn’t move when he spoke and the effect was off-putting, but I do remember being thanked. He seems to just complain now, so I have no proof

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        Get the necromancy book in the blighted village and you get speaks with dead on any character for free.

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            In the withers ruin, yes. I think you find it in the same room as his sarcophagus but not sure. You can also just put it on whenever. Ignoring attunement was a great decision but would be silly OP in tabletop with even 10% of the loot you get in BG3

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      Knock wastes a level 2 spell slot while thieves tools are plentiful. You can easily unlock anything with thieves gloves, don’t even need a dex character. Speak with animals is replaced by a potion that most merchants sell for a few gold.

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        You don’t really need that extra spell slot for a game that’s not at all punishing in the combat department though, and having Speak With Animals memorized as a ritual is just much better QoL than having to buy and drink potions all the time IMO

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        Agree, I only go with Knock if I’m not carrying Astarion around for some strange reason. He’s such a bastard, but too useful in so many situations. I’m a potion hoarder though and I will likely finish my run with enough potions to start my own business.

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          I respecced Shadowheart as an arcane trickster rogue just so I didn’t have to listen to Astarion any more. It actually suits her personality very well, I think.

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            She starts as a trickery domain claric, so thematically not too different. I don’t see why Shar’s followers wouldn’t include some rogues, so it makes enough sense.

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        Smack the door with your sword. The only ones that don’t fall to my sword are arcane locked and astarion can lock pick those.

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      Speak with animals gets a lot better with infinite duration.

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      Lol never once needed knock. Astarion (and later respecced roguelock Wyll) almost never failed, especially with guidance. And even if you fail, I never once had single digit thieves tools.

      SwA is goddamn awesome though, totally agreed. Talking to the Rothes in the underdark blew my mind

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          I don’t recall any that could be opened with knock but could either be picked or destroyed. I do remember many that required huge amounts of damage to dent though.

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            There are a few that have DC 30 and can’t be broken. That’s not impossible, but it’s still hard even with a character built for it.

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              Oh yeah, I remember some of those. I didn’t use Astorion, so I built him up just to pick those crazy locks. They’re still tough though for sure.

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      Anyone who has played any of the Divinity games knows that Speak with Animals is a must-have. Pet Pal was also the best perk in DoS / DoS 2.