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    No, they are chosen by “I identify as…” and then they make their choice. That is literally arbitrary. I don’t know how you have been using the word, but you could look it up in a dictionary to see how people have historically used the word.

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      they are chosen by “I identify as…”

      So you acknowledge that there are deterministic sets of conditions after all. Great, we’re making progress!

      Also:

      based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system

      It’s not random choice or personal whim. There is a reason and a system. Again, just because you lack the understanding does not mean the rest of the world is as riddled with brain worms as you are.

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        Yeah, the system is “I feel this way (today),” or “I feel that way (today).” This ends in “does free will exist,” which I don’t want to end up at.

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          Not how it works. Clearly you’ve never actually met a trans person and actually had a conversation with them and tried to understand their life, have you?

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            Bigots usually haven’t. It’s easier to spew hate when you’re not standing in front of someone who will happily knock your lights out for being an asshole.

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            There are a couple of “trans” people in my life. They have one sex but feel as though they are the other sex. I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don’t give a shit. One of them works with me and the other slices my lunchmeat at the deli. I don’t press them about anything, and I don’t talk about it. I actually use their preferred pronouns because I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I’m not even convinced they actually feel like women. I think they’ve been lied to scummy activists all throughout their public education.
            Gender is made-up bullshit.

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              I feel sorry for them the discord they feel in their identity, but beyond that I really don’t give a shit

              I feel sorry for the trans people in your life. They deserve better.

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              I respect them both as individuals, but internally, I believe they are both men who think they feel like women. I’m not even convinced they actually feel like women.

              Clearly, you don’t respect them.

              I have more trans friends than you probably have friends, and it’s never once crossed my mind to question their identity. Even if you’re not saying the quiet part out loud, you’re sure as shit thinking bigoted thoughts.

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                Do you want a trophy?
                Question their identity? What are you even talking about? Why would someone question someone else’s identity (in that sense)?

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              Wow, you are a hateful piece of shit. Do you honestly think that people just decide one day to make an extreme life change, knowing that they’ll endure lifelong ostracism, ridicule, and condescension from brainless bigots like you, all for attention or “ideology”?

              I sincerely hope you have trans kids who end up marrying black and brown communists. Hail Satan!