Nobody has ever painted exactly what they imagined. Art is not finished; it is abandoned.
That’s fair. The finished result is still in the artist’s control, though. Not so with generated content.
Readymades? Decoupage? Exquisite corpse?
All fit my previous descriptions of art.
As for the demoscene, my intent is not too diminish what those people do. You brought up examples which, if I understand the process correctly, simply don’t result in art. Although “product” was perhaps a bad word to use. It wasn’t intended to suggest it’s all commercial. Just meant as a distinction from art with intent.
And, as I said, the direct result of their efforts in the programs they create is impressive. I’m not suggesting otherwise. I’d happily consider that art if one were to suggest it. The process of setting up the mechanism, setting it in motion, and creating something? That’s a big art piece. But the generated results of those programs? Without the rest of it, the result on it’s own is just not art. It’s empty of intent.
You don’t mean things, when you say intent. You’ve latched onto it as an excuse to denigrate works of art, made exclusively by human beings, through immense effort and skill. I have nothing more to ask besides how fucking dare you. Where do you get off, looking at an audiovisual product, expressing a complex scene, evoking desired emotions, and declaring that less than any child’s stick figure?
What in the everloving shit is going through your head, when you say months of effort, by collaborative groups or committed individuals, didn’t have-- a plan, a goal, a-- fucking-- aspiration? What do you think you mean, when you spit the word, intent?
That’s fair. The finished result is still in the artist’s control, though. Not so with generated content.
All fit my previous descriptions of art.
As for the demoscene, my intent is not too diminish what those people do. You brought up examples which, if I understand the process correctly, simply don’t result in art. Although “product” was perhaps a bad word to use. It wasn’t intended to suggest it’s all commercial. Just meant as a distinction from art with intent.
And, as I said, the direct result of their efforts in the programs they create is impressive. I’m not suggesting otherwise. I’d happily consider that art if one were to suggest it. The process of setting up the mechanism, setting it in motion, and creating something? That’s a big art piece. But the generated results of those programs? Without the rest of it, the result on it’s own is just not art. It’s empty of intent.
‘I’m not disparaging it, it’s just not art.’
Shut up.
You don’t mean things, when you say intent. You’ve latched onto it as an excuse to denigrate works of art, made exclusively by human beings, through immense effort and skill. I have nothing more to ask besides how fucking dare you. Where do you get off, looking at an audiovisual product, expressing a complex scene, evoking desired emotions, and declaring that less than any child’s stick figure?
What in the everloving shit is going through your head, when you say months of effort, by collaborative groups or committed individuals, didn’t have-- a plan, a goal, a-- fucking-- aspiration? What do you think you mean, when you spit the word, intent?