Military leaders claim Tommy Tuberville’s actions are a national security risk, but the senator is defiant.

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    yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions… if this is really the case, then the military is being mismanaged way worse than anyone knows.

    we could cut those positions outright, and 10,000 others, and still be the biggest assholes on the planet.

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      I mean, that’s true, but the actual issue is that in the system as it currently exists, the entire reason Tuberville is doing this is to create empty vacancies, in hopes of stonewalling until the Presidential election. The entire plan is literally another attempt at a coup, just looking for ways to have a Republican administration put in a bunch of Yes Men in key positions, if they’re lucky enough to keep the House and win the Presidency. Having cronies in control of the military is no joke.

      While we would still indeed be the biggest assholes out there, with a military that would still outmatch much of the world, the difference if that if this is continued to be allowed, there is real risk of the “biggest asshole” military on the planet being controlled by an actual dictatorship, not the dog and pony show we call a “democracy.” A fascist dictatorship that wants to wipe women and minority rights off the map and take us back 100 years or more.

      I’m no fan of the milquetoast wimpy Democrats who watch the Republicans break rules all the time and are unwilling to play hardball themselves, but whinging while ignoring the literal rising threat of fascism that’s out there making plans to take power isn’t gonna help.

      So, to quote a great man, “You’re not wrong, Walter, you’re just an asshole.”

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        Honestly, I think you give Tuberville way too much credit in terms of political machinations. I think he’s just very, very stupid. Every sign I’ve seen points to that.

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          I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Tommy Tuberville is a mstermind who conceived of, and is executing, a grand scheme. Just that someone told him to do something and he’s doing it.

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        im not sure if you noticed, but my point is party agnostic with regards to our out of control military, both parties are complicit.

        . and no, i dont believe we have to spend 1t/per to be the worlds police. we as a country suck major ballls.

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          Did I argue that they aren’t complicit or did I point out that what’s happening is literally part of a plan for an intended coup by the way more fascist of the two shitty parties?

          We can suck major balls and you can still live in fucking reality where if the Republicans succeed at this, they will be using the military to root out and murder people like you and me, just because they can.

          Democrats just want to be rich fuckwits above it all, but Republicans legit want to fucking hurt people, and ignoring that means you’d rather play pretend that we could just dismantle the military overnight. We can’t dismantle the military industrial complex we don’t have the political power. So in the meantime, let’s live in fucking reality and understand our own limitations shall we, hmm? Because acting like something we literally don’t have the power to do is something we should focus on while the fascists are at the gate is fucking nanners, to put it lightly.

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          We can be upset about more than one thing at once. Our military spending is out of control, and one person in congress should not be able to grind government functions to a hault.

          OP is right, this is just a veiled attempt to maintain vacancies in the hopes of getting a republican president.

          They learned from their mistakes last time, and they’re going to try again later.

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          That’s… Literally not the point. Usually you don’t want your military to be controlled by people who wanna take over the government.

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          and no, i dont believe we have to spend 1t/per to be the worlds police. we as a country suck major ballls.

          I agree with that. That money would be much better spent on universal healthcare and universal college-level education.

          On the other hand, Tuberville’s reasoning is insanely backward and needs to be punished.

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          mY boTH SideS!!!

          If this doesn’t upset you, you’re literally a fascist sympathizer.

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      yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions

      The whole nation is in jeopardy because these leadership positions are being held open until Trump is reelected in a rework of the Merrick Garland SC nomination. Which should be terrifying. Jan 6 failed in part because some of the military top brass (Miley) put oath before Trump.

      Read up on Project 2025 if you haven’t. These “unconnected events” are anything but. It’s a strategy.

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            The theory that as disparate political ideologies move further from the center that they get more alike past a certain point. The spectrum isn’t a line, it’s a horseshoe.

            I’ll make the argument that tankies aren’t really leftists tho. They’re some weird amalgam of authoritarian communists. They have more in common with fascists, but they just took a different trip to get there. It’s shitty political convergence

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      [Republicans intentionally mismanage something.]

      You: Look how terrible the organization is!

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        Literally their playbook for decades. The government sucks in their hands because they make it suck, not because it’s inherently ineffective. But suckers are gonna suck.

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      Remember when they held up the judicial nominations under Obama, only to force through a massive number of federal judges (and three Supreme Court picks) once they had control again? You can see how they’re doing the exact same thing with the military right now.

      Now imagine if, on January 6th, the military was being run by MAGAts.

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      yes the whole nation is in jeopardy because some warmongers arent getting their promotions… if this is really the case, then the military is being mismanaged way worse than anyone knows.

      When you refuse to fill management positions, yes, it will become even more mismanaged. Moreover, this is still messing with people’s pay and families as well. You can’t really cut management positions in the military and expect it to function. Our readiness will absolutely be hindered.

      You can hate the army, but they’re also one of the biggest suppliers of aid to other countries. Their logistics and planning help save more lives than you ever will, plus they save more lives than they actually ever take in combat.

      You’re no better than a Republican who just wants to shut down and obstruct without offering any actual assistance or plans to move forward. You’re a child not getting their way. Are you related to the Senator as you throw a similar hissy fit?