255 grams per week. That’s the short answer to how much meat you can eat without harming the planet. And that only applies to poultry and pork.
Beef cannot be eaten in meaningful quantities without exceeding planetary boundaries, according to an article published by a group of DTU researchers in the journal Nature Food. So says Caroline H. Gebara, postdoc at DTU Sustain and lead author of the study."
Our calculations show that even moderate amounts of red meat in one’s diet are incompatible with what the planet can regenerate of resources based on the environmental factors we looked at in the study. However, there are many other diets—including ones with meat—that are both healthy and sustainable," she says.
Or simply to act to with moral coherence and avoid unnecessary cognitive dissonance. So that’s one difference between our attitudes.
That would IMO be a negative impact. Ecoterrorism does not work. Wrong ethically, and counterprodutive. So that’s a second difference.
These are questions of deep philosophy, not simply judgements based on facts. You don’t see things as I see them, and vice versa. In a pluralistic society that should be manageable.
Hence this third difference. The very fact that we can express disagreements like this and not be arrested is proof of something. The fact that our politicians are useless or malevolent is because we are those things. No societies in human history have been as free and democratic as the modern West. Things were (much) worse before, and soon they’re going to get much worse again.
Anyway. An unbridgeable gulf. Others can decide which of us, if either, is “right”.
Which is a way to make ourselves feel better… I don’t eat meat because of my morals, but I don’t think for a second that its meaningful on a societal scale, or makes me somehow morally superior to those who do.
But if we reach a critical mass of people who do think eco-terrorism is good then we would stop climate change… If you’re not willing to lift a finger for the environment how do you expect anyone else to?
Eco-terrorism can only be a negative impact because of the social mores it clashes with, which will never change if voters don’t really care about the environment. As far as ethics goes, that’s really a matter of perspective. Is it really morally troubling to destroy property than it it is to let that property destroy entire ecologies?
Btw, im not actually advocating for eco-terrorism, I’m just utilizing your logic to make a point. We all could be devoting our entire lives to push society to be more green, but we are human. And part of being human is wanting to be comfortable and live within our social norms. No amount of personal responsibility is really going to make a difference at a scale that really matters unless we are already in a position in that society to do so.
Two unimportant people discussing mundane topics without being arrested has been fairly standard in just about every society in human history.
Eh… I tend to believe that power corrupts and that the corrupt seek power over people. I would hope that you or I are both more morally upstanding people than the people in charge of our society.
Lol, that’s just incredibly naive. There is a higher percentage of people in prison today than ever before. I’m not arguing that there haven’t been times and places where it’s worse to be alive…but it’s simply impossible to accurately claim that the modern west most “free” society that’s ever been created. Freedom means different things to different people at different times, as does modernity.
Lol, it’s only unbridgeable because you refuse to participate in discourse. This isn’t a right or wrong type of conversation, the whole point of communicating in an open forum is to learn. Nobody cares about the opinions of two schmucks talking about ethical consumption on the Internet.