The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    I’m agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly

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      7 days ago

      So do I, what’s your point?

      If you say that you believe in God, then you’re not agnostic. If you don’t believe in God, you’re an atheist. Atheist, agnostic, in practice it’s the exact same thing

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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        6 days ago

        If I were an atheist then I would say there is no God, no afterlife, no soul, none of that.

        I am agnostic because I haven’t seen evidence that I should rule it out nor accept it as gospel. Pun slightly intended.

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          1 day ago

          It’s again the same thing. Could there be a soul? It hasn’t been proven either way so yeah, it’s possible, but in all likelihood it’s just bogus.

          Either way, atheists and agnostics say the exact same things, atheists are just clearer about the message

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            1 day ago

            Again, my beliefs aren’t your beliefs.

            I’m not an “Atheist in denial”, I am someone who doesn’t see significant evidence to rule out things humanity is incapable of understanding they may be similar in concept to God or a soul

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              11 hours ago

              I apologize if I made you feel like I was pushing something on you.

              I’m merely trying to say that the teo are pretty much the same. I was like you, calling myself agnostic until I read this line “agnostics are just closet atheists” and that rung a bell with me.

              My beliefs didn’t change, I just call myself atheist now.

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                9 hours ago

                I’m merely trying to say that the teo are pretty much the same. I was like you, calling myself agnostic until I read this line “agnostics are just closet atheists” and that rung a bell with me.

                My beliefs didn’t change, I just call myself atheist now.

                I am not in a closet