Right now, it would likely harm other countries at least as much as the US. We’re just too interconnected into every aspect of the global economy. Cutting off the US cuts off a lot of services that other countries rely on.
But, Trump’s current foreign policy is driving countries away from the US fast. Give it a few years for countries to disentangled themselves from the US and it would likely be more effective without harming themselves in the process.
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Depends on by whom and how long. The US produces a lot of things but also imports a lot of critical goods and materials as well.
If Canada, Mexico, China, and the EU & UK all banded together for sanctions or embargoes? The US economy would be pushing daisies pretty quick. Especially if the actions were coordinated and did not give the US time to react and adjust.
But the countries issuing those actions wouldn’t be in good shape either. Trade wars are a 2-way street.
Why would anyone bother with sanctions? Nothing a foreign government could do would be worse than what our own is doing.
Just wait it out and hope you manage to find a way to secure our nukes after everything disintegrates.
To encourage the revolt of the increasingly dissatisfied American public.
And for those who say “that’s not going to happen”, you do not speak for the rest of us. There is absolutely unrest. The news cycle does not reflect reality.
Can confirm about the unrest. My friend group is discussing these events daily. And a few of them are actually going out and protesting. I’m likely to join in this summer.
Would also depend on how captain dipshit responds. This could be interpreted as an act of aggression considering he and his cronies are itching for a reason to invade somewhere
All talk.
Been around plenty of disordered folks and he fits a very specific bill.
He’s chickenshit. Lotta threats but won’t follow through. His reputation is everything to him, but he will absolutely turn tail and run if he is challenged by a more powerful opponent. He will absolutely hold a grudge and try to get revenge in a “”“sneaky”“” way, but he’s still an absolute fucking idiot.
Ultimately I agree with you but if I’m a leader of say, Canada or somewhere in the EU I wouldn’t bank on it
For one I’ve also been around many “disordered folks” as you call them (outpatient therapist) and rhetoric can escalate. This is a common behavioral pattern called an extinction burst. You stop giving into his bullshit? That’s the most dangerous time of all. Even putting that aside there’s just the risk of him getting escalating amounts of unchecked power. Those threats might get cashed once he decides he wants to check and see if he can actually get away with it.
But that aside it’s not him as much as the entourage. There’s a group behind him and some of them are clearly looking to push him towards alienating the us from all their allies. He doesn’t work in a vacuum. He has a bunch of people saying “maybe you should do this”. He even has people saying “you have to do this, I gave you x million dollars”. Again, if I’m leading Canada this is what truly worries me. Trump may be a chickenshit but the warhawks behind him that want to sell a bunch of military gear and get contracts are frothing at the mouth for this kind of thing.
Absolutely. He’s a puppet.
But I firmly believe that a bully that faces no consequences will continue to escalate.
Cut off the US. Support the people’s protesting. Trust me when I say that there is more opposition than ever. Even in my ultra-conservative town, the flags have disappeared. It’s getting… interesting.
To be clear I agree with you still. I think they should do it but I think they won’t
I am an American and this action will cause me pain but I think things need to get worse here unfortunately. I think the only potential silver lining of this situation is that it may get so bad that people finally develop a bit of class consciousness and demand change.
I do not hold out hope for this though, and even if it does occur I do not hold out hope that it sustains beyond our four year election cycle. Power forces and moneyed interests working against it and such. But it would be nice
Anything is an act of aggression with them. The only tong you can do that they won’t call an act of aggression at this point is rolling over and giving them your country.
It’s abusive tactics 101, the only way to stop the abuse is to do the things they don’t want you to do, even if it gets worse first.
I think aiming to sanction the US is the wrong plan, treat it like it is what it is - a country run by an autocrat, and go after the oligarchs. Same approach as taken with Russia, North Korea, Iran, etc.
In terms of effectiveness. Frankly we’re (globally) only getting rid of Trump and his cronies if the American public rise up against him and oust him through whatever means that may take. Protests and extended strikes for starters - and the people will be more likely to band together with Trump than against him if the whole world starts Tariffing and sanctioning the USA like a rogue state.
On the other hand, sanction and freeze Trump & Co. assetts all over the (western) world and when he retaliates to protect his own interests its a lot harder to sell to his constituents.
How you would even legally go about that is another question though, he would have to be breaking financial international laws and the countries involved in the personal sanctions would have to be ready and willing for blowback.
Its all fantasy at this stage until he starts blatantly breaking international laws that allow his assets to be seized. Likewise with the idea of US sanctions - look at how much Israel has done and they’re not sanctioned, and it took a great deal of blatant acts of war before Russia and North Korea were sanctioned also.
yo gonna ban swift from swift? lol where do they grow you?
SWIFT is headquartered in Belgium.
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