I work at home in relative silence with two big screens. In office there is constantly music playing, and everyone’s cheek by jowl, I’m working on a laptop, and there’s a lot of big personalities and I can’t just go to my kitchen to make lunch or get coffee, I have to leave the building and buy something. Plus there’s a “team building” thing at 4pm. Its constant interruptions about look at this quilt I made, did you see Jim’s new shoes, look at my new puppy, even on topic conversations are disrupting because I’m trying to work on project A while two people are talking about project B two feet from my ear.
Depends on the person I guess. I’m bored as fuck working from home. The only positive about it was that I didn’t have to commute. I’d stop working after 4 hours basically. Get less done. It’s not for me.
At work the kitchen is nearby. Everyone is on the same floor. 5 departments on one floor. Can just go over there when I need them instead of waiting on some email that take days to be replied to.
Working with people younger than me, they need support. A lot easier to do on site. I don’t even communicate to the coworkers not working at the office. To me it’s as if they are taking a day off.
If their work is done, they get more work. If it’s not done then they have that work to do when at the office.
Pretty sure there’s a lot of fraud. Because I frauded.
I’m an agency marketer, I essentially run 5 SME marketing departments simultaneously. Everything has to be logged both w/r/t time tracking, dollar spend on behalf of clients and activity tracking in Asana. Usually I complete about 5-8 tasks a day every day (where a task might be - write 15 emails, segment a database into frozen vs shelf stable food manufacturers, work with the translation department to make this case study Spanish-language…), and have to divide my attention 25/25/15/15/10/10 between 5 accounts and internal admin (budgets, stand ups, reports, 1:1s).
My ability to be consistent, organized, and hold lots of things in my head to cover the previous-current-and-next quarters is just part of my job. I enjoy it, I love being busy, but man is the office an anathema to that process. Not to mention, I don’t hit my 4 business hour SLA to reply to a client ask, I turn up to a meeting unprepared without a deck, or my other stakeholders don’t get their collateral, you’d know in less than a day.
The “emails that go days without a reply” can’t happen because of the 4h SLA I mentioned, “going over to a department” doesn’t work because everyone is also split between 3-5 accounts, or at the VP level, all 30+ accounts.
I would suggest starting your own business and invoicing those 5 SMEs. That does not seem like a fun work structure to me. I’d forego the 7h36 min work day then.
Especially if you aren’t even using that company’s building. Those costs they make do nothing for you. You should invoice as an external party, invoice your building costs to them as well. As they now have a spot open for another employee at their building.
My job is just being an accountant at a Belgian hospital. My boss doesn’t even want me to do any overtime unless it’s “necessary”.
I prefer being at the office, accountancy here has a labour shortage. Main reason is boredom. I won’t be able to keep the new juniors on board if I don’t entertain them. The department’s main problem is people leaving after a couple of months.
When others left, work stacked up. New people feel overwhelmed. They leave. Cycle continues.
i need to be good at accountancy, but more importantly I need to be good with people in order to advance my position within the department.
A potential leadership role in the future won’t happen if I sit at home every day.
starting ones own business requires a lot of “unpaid” bizdev, contract management, accounts payable/receivable, plus dealing with PnL, EBITDA, tax, business rates, expenses… and then although I handle the marketing my colleagues handle media appearances, ad deck bidding optimization, Gartner analyst relations, and I have direct reports to manage CRM/ERP integrations and graphic design. It’s just not a 1:1.
Depends on the country. Where I live it’s beneficial to start your own company once your income reaches 10k euros a month. Being an employee here is for the sake of security. Unemployment benefits, difficulty to be fired. Parent leave. Shocks during an economic crisis are absorbed by the company.
There’s pros and cons to each. But if you are handling 5 SME’s. Working productively all the time. From your own home. Then I’m guessing it can be beneficial for yourself to start your own company.
With such a job, you’ll likely have a safety buffer in your finances for the unpaid period. No clue why there’d be an unpaid period though, you already have your connections.
Once again… easier here in Belgium. Taxes on labour are quite high, becoming an independent can cost the company less money while putting more money on the independent’s bank account.
A lot of people here complaining about the taxes, but unwilling to give up the security of employment
Why can’t you do the same at the office compared to at home? Do you simply work more hours at home since you don’t have to commute?
I work at home in relative silence with two big screens. In office there is constantly music playing, and everyone’s cheek by jowl, I’m working on a laptop, and there’s a lot of big personalities and I can’t just go to my kitchen to make lunch or get coffee, I have to leave the building and buy something. Plus there’s a “team building” thing at 4pm. Its constant interruptions about look at this quilt I made, did you see Jim’s new shoes, look at my new puppy, even on topic conversations are disrupting because I’m trying to work on project A while two people are talking about project B two feet from my ear.
Depends on the person I guess. I’m bored as fuck working from home. The only positive about it was that I didn’t have to commute. I’d stop working after 4 hours basically. Get less done. It’s not for me.
At work the kitchen is nearby. Everyone is on the same floor. 5 departments on one floor. Can just go over there when I need them instead of waiting on some email that take days to be replied to.
Working with people younger than me, they need support. A lot easier to do on site. I don’t even communicate to the coworkers not working at the office. To me it’s as if they are taking a day off.
If their work is done, they get more work. If it’s not done then they have that work to do when at the office.
Pretty sure there’s a lot of fraud. Because I frauded.
I’m an agency marketer, I essentially run 5 SME marketing departments simultaneously. Everything has to be logged both w/r/t time tracking, dollar spend on behalf of clients and activity tracking in Asana. Usually I complete about 5-8 tasks a day every day (where a task might be - write 15 emails, segment a database into frozen vs shelf stable food manufacturers, work with the translation department to make this case study Spanish-language…), and have to divide my attention 25/25/15/15/10/10 between 5 accounts and internal admin (budgets, stand ups, reports, 1:1s).
My ability to be consistent, organized, and hold lots of things in my head to cover the previous-current-and-next quarters is just part of my job. I enjoy it, I love being busy, but man is the office an anathema to that process. Not to mention, I don’t hit my 4 business hour SLA to reply to a client ask, I turn up to a meeting unprepared without a deck, or my other stakeholders don’t get their collateral, you’d know in less than a day.
The “emails that go days without a reply” can’t happen because of the 4h SLA I mentioned, “going over to a department” doesn’t work because everyone is also split between 3-5 accounts, or at the VP level, all 30+ accounts.
I would suggest starting your own business and invoicing those 5 SMEs. That does not seem like a fun work structure to me. I’d forego the 7h36 min work day then.
Especially if you aren’t even using that company’s building. Those costs they make do nothing for you. You should invoice as an external party, invoice your building costs to them as well. As they now have a spot open for another employee at their building.
My job is just being an accountant at a Belgian hospital. My boss doesn’t even want me to do any overtime unless it’s “necessary”.
I prefer being at the office, accountancy here has a labour shortage. Main reason is boredom. I won’t be able to keep the new juniors on board if I don’t entertain them. The department’s main problem is people leaving after a couple of months.
When others left, work stacked up. New people feel overwhelmed. They leave. Cycle continues.
i need to be good at accountancy, but more importantly I need to be good with people in order to advance my position within the department.
A potential leadership role in the future won’t happen if I sit at home every day.
starting ones own business requires a lot of “unpaid” bizdev, contract management, accounts payable/receivable, plus dealing with PnL, EBITDA, tax, business rates, expenses… and then although I handle the marketing my colleagues handle media appearances, ad deck bidding optimization, Gartner analyst relations, and I have direct reports to manage CRM/ERP integrations and graphic design. It’s just not a 1:1.
Depends on the country. Where I live it’s beneficial to start your own company once your income reaches 10k euros a month. Being an employee here is for the sake of security. Unemployment benefits, difficulty to be fired. Parent leave. Shocks during an economic crisis are absorbed by the company.
There’s pros and cons to each. But if you are handling 5 SME’s. Working productively all the time. From your own home. Then I’m guessing it can be beneficial for yourself to start your own company.
With such a job, you’ll likely have a safety buffer in your finances for the unpaid period. No clue why there’d be an unpaid period though, you already have your connections.
Once again… easier here in Belgium. Taxes on labour are quite high, becoming an independent can cost the company less money while putting more money on the independent’s bank account.
A lot of people here complaining about the taxes, but unwilling to give up the security of employment