Yeah, when welfare and pensions are butchered because the EU is trying to salvage the deindustrialising increasingly uncompetitive economy by pouring lots of money in the military-industrial complex instead of social services this is going to be soooo awesome. Only Europe is going to be doing that in a much more fiscally constrained environment that America. Greaaaat.
You are trying to scare me, an American, by saying that if Europe keeps going the way they are going someday they might be as terrible a place to live as America.
That’s better odds than my current reality. I’m guaranteed to live in a country no social safety net and a constrained fiscal environment because that describes America right fucking now.
Really sounds like you are arguing in favor of those ideological reasons.
I’m not saying we should take the fortunes of the rich and light them on fire. (Though there would be benefits even to that destructive approach)
Sure, eating the rich would not solve all our problems forever. It would solve some immediate problems today, and future generations would need to grapple with their problems tomorrow.
“We can’t change things! There would be costs!” There are costs to inaction. We are paying them every day.
If you get rid of the rich, what will you do then? The institutions we have now, the social order we have now, what will you replace it with? Who will control the economy and by what means?
Some new asshole I have no doubt. Are you giving me a magic wand? The powers of a dictator? How broad can I make the changes for this fully functional society you are implicitly asking me to dream up on Lemmy?
I’m just one person. We have a whole as society to figure that stuff out.
There is a crisis in Europe because of lack of investment, are you sure it is not your problem?
I do in fact wish we had European problems. That would be a massive upgrade. We should be so lucky.
Yeah, when welfare and pensions are butchered because the EU is trying to salvage the deindustrialising increasingly uncompetitive economy by pouring lots of money in the military-industrial complex instead of social services this is going to be soooo awesome. Only Europe is going to be doing that in a much more fiscally constrained environment that America. Greaaaat.
You are trying to scare me, an American, by saying that if Europe keeps going the way they are going someday they might be as terrible a place to live as America.
That’s better odds than my current reality. I’m guaranteed to live in a country no social safety net and a constrained fiscal environment because that describes America right fucking now.
Again, we should be so lucky.
I would say that America can afford a safety net, it just doesn’t do it for ideological reasons.
I mean, I am not trying to scare you, just showing you that a lack of investment is bad.
Really sounds like you are arguing in favor of those ideological reasons.
I’m not saying we should take the fortunes of the rich and light them on fire. (Though there would be benefits even to that destructive approach)
Sure, eating the rich would not solve all our problems forever. It would solve some immediate problems today, and future generations would need to grapple with their problems tomorrow.
“We can’t change things! There would be costs!” There are costs to inaction. We are paying them every day.
If you get rid of the rich, what will you do then? The institutions we have now, the social order we have now, what will you replace it with? Who will control the economy and by what means?
Some new asshole I have no doubt. Are you giving me a magic wand? The powers of a dictator? How broad can I make the changes for this fully functional society you are implicitly asking me to dream up on Lemmy?
I’m just one person. We have a whole as society to figure that stuff out.