• Baggins [he/him]
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    Basically California thinks that if you receive something of value in return for sharing data that that is considered selling data

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      Yes exactly. And that is entirely right and proper.

      Nothing of what Mozilla should be doing meets that definition. Even if they share data with 3rd parties to process it, and even if they pay the 3rd party for that service, they’re not supposed to get something in return for providing the data. But also, providing data in such a manner does not mean they are selling it.

      If they are getting something in return for providing the data, be it payment, other services or even simply a discount, then they’re doing something wrong.

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        13 hours ago

        Mozilla thinks they are getting something in return( I believe it’s services). I only watched the rossmann video but the Mozilla document he showed lays it out

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          Cool, I’ll give the video a full watch then. I normally don’t like Rossmann videos because he takes 30 min to say what he could have covered in 5-10.

          But yeah, they shouldn’t be doing that. That’s selling of data. If they want to sell my data, that I manufactured by my literal blood, sweat, and tears of being alive, they should pay me for it first.

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      Could it be e.g. the sponsored tiles on the new tab? If you click those, the sponsor inevitably gets your IP address and thus your approximate location, and Mozilla gets paid.

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        As far as I know they do not get that. Mozilla aggregates and anonymizes the people that clicked on the sponsored link. Of course Amazon knows when you request their site, but they do not know that you clicked it from the sponsored link (as far as I know)

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          Yeah I meant the latter - you visit the Amazon website, and then your IP address is shared with them. I have no idea how broad these legal clauses are, and it could be that there’s a need to (legally) guard against even that.

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            Well that is just the basis of browsing the web… If you don’t want to share your IP you have to proxy your traffic though some other server like a VPN for example…

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              Yes, but we’re talking legalese here, not common sense, so I don’t want to make any assumptions 😅