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    1 day ago

    Did USA give up any power? I’m missing something or people are not paying attention at all?

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      Yes. We are losing soft power and allies all around the world thanks to the orange menace.

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        Our soft power has taken a greater hit from our unwavering support for Israel than this. How many countries outside of Europe have come out to condemn this? Meanwhile u.n. vote after u.n. vote everyone except for the u.s. and it’s proxies vote to condemn this genocide and the u.s. sending weapons.

        This definitely doesn’t make us look good, but it’s not the unprecedented foreign relations catastrophe people are making it out to be.

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          Our soft power has taken a greater hit from our unwavering support for Israel than this.

          Some truth there but Israel has been expected due to prior policy.

          Shitting on your supposed “ally” makes other allies wonder when you gonna do it to them.

          Soft power is when your allies play ball with out a gun to their head. Allies support israel by and large and those who oppose won’t under mine their US relationship over it.

          So from soft power perspective shitting on Ukraine very bad optics especially in light Trump pulled out a chair for bibi and then suck his dick on camera for the world to see.

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          Right or wrong (it is wrong in my opinion), supporting Israel and letting them do whatever the fuck they want while shoving weapons down their throat and no one daring to fuck beyond with them beyond words because you’re backing them is an extreme show of the extent of your soft power I would argue.

          Pulling support from a former ally in open war against your historical arch nemesis because your leader feels like they didn’t thank them enough is the opposite. It tells everyone else that your words mean nothing. What about Taiwan tomorrow? Did they thank Trump enough to be protected from Chinese aggression?

          That’s the literal opposite to unwavering support of your ally even if that ally behaves like a lunatic (read: genocidal maniac).

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      One of our greatest strengths is that we build coalitions. We just told the world that if you ally with us, you better be ready to grovel.

      For example, places like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are capable of building nuclear weapons but they didn’t bc they trusted us to protect them. Each of those countries are now imagining themselves sitting there in front of cameras being berated for ingratitude.

      Without our allies we are much less powerful.

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        For example, places like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are capable of building nuclear weapons but they didn’t bc they trusted us to protect them.

        They didn’t do it because they can’t without US approval.

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              Iran is a geo political enemy… nobody cries about this.

              If US starts going this route with allies, it won’t end well for US. They can’t enforce hegemony at a gun point if we don’t have the coalition of major world economies behind our back. In that scenario, we will need to be worried about them fucking us over if we get bogged down in Vietnam or Afghanistan etc.

              North Korea build the bomb and so did Iran and they even developed lunch systems.

              US literally transferred nuclear weapons tech and material to Israel to enable their “rogue” program.

              But yes… US killed an Iranian guy for working on nuclear weapons. Trust me dawg… we have done a lot more reprehensible things

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          Look at everyone elses replies to you fucking dolt. You want me to do your fucking homework lmao.

          Go suck some more Putin dick.

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            Look at everyone elses replies to you fucking dolt.

            No replies here actually point out to evidence that US actually lost a significant amount of power

            Go suck some more Putin dick.

            Why are you thinking of him? perhaps that’s what you want to do?

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          The people (and mainly the private companies) of an allied country redused to help America. Only under threat from the Norwegian government did the US ships get fuel. Sounds like a loss of power to me

          “Huge credit to the president of Ukraine restraining himself and for keeping calm even though USA put on a backstabbing TV show. It made us sick… No Fuel to Americans!,” the company said in a now deleted Facebook post - just a good excerpt from the article

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            The people (and mainly the private companies) of an allied country redused to help America. Only under threat from the Norwegian government did the US ships get fuel. Sounds like a loss of power to me

            Some company tried to go against US and they got immediately rectified, that’s the power we are talking about at work.

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              So, you can’t see how more and more people going against the US is equal to losing power world wide? How a government treating its citizens to be freindly isn’t actually friendly?

              We literally would gas up all the time in Norway no questions asked but now we’re not and you can’t see the problem?

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                So, you can’t see how more and more people going against the US is equal to losing power world wide?

                Trump and musk got shit talked for a decade straight and still managed to win elections. US power worldwide isn’t “talked” they actually have concrete power on almost every country in the world.