• SleafordMod@feddit.uk
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    8 hours ago

    proxy war

    So you think Russia waged this war just to stick it to the West? To me it looks like a war of conquest - Russia invaded so they could take land.

    • Saleh@feddit.org
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      3 hours ago

      If it was only about conquest, there is countries like Kazachstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tschadjikistan that Russia could conquer easily and w.o. consequences from the West.

      The key strategic goal for Russia is to prevent NATO standing on their homeland doorsteps.

      For a good explanatiom see this talk by Prof. John Mearsheimer, who foresaw this war coming ten years ago already.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&pp=ygULbWVhcnNoZWltZXI%3D

      • perestroika@lemm.ee
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        58 minutes ago

        My guess: it was Putin doubling down on his bet made in 2014, which in turn was triggerd by chance (protests over an EU accession treaty triggering a revolution in Ukraine) and opportunism.

        Putin seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and his popularity ratings soared. He allowed the conflict to be frozen and undertook a campaign of military reforms, but Ukraine also undertook their own.

        He subsequently isolated himself to such degree that he was surrounded by yes-men, and they told him Ukraine could be conquered with 200 000 men (and “was about to collapse anyway”, etc). He thought it would be over in days and told them to get it done.

    • zqps@sh.itjust.works
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      6 hours ago

      Also because Putin needed a war to shore up nationalist fervor and distract from his failures and corruption. A classic play that almost always works.

    • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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      6 hours ago

      Now this is just a dim take. We are fighting a war via a proxy (Ukraine) by offering the financial, logistical, and weapon support. Hence, a Proxy War.