• weker01@sh.itjust.works
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      Jep, like I said did not look too closely into it. Anyway, the point is that taking statistics in a vacuum can lead to strange conclusions.

      Btw the gist I was going for, that statistically black men make up a disproportionate chunk of the homicide perpetrators in the US is a fact.

      USA Homicide Offending Rates By Race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

      Still misleading on its own as it does not give insight into the cause of the discrepancy. Racists use this all the time to justify bigotry.

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        The gist you actually provided was “you are doing a bad thing and I’m disappointed in you, smh” and then proceeded to do something very similar followed by a non-apology.

        I actually agree with your point but it’s still a shitty way to do it.

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          Something similar? I read a picture wrong going of a fact I’ve heard before.

          I was just lazy I give you that. I did not double check but after someone pointed the mistake out I gave better numbers.

          So how is that similar to what happened before? My main point wasn’t that I distrust the numbers they are posting but the way it is not backed up with good explanations and/or potential causes.

          Reading back this comment does come off as overly defensive but I am genuinely confused what I did that is similar and how I should’ve behaved better in the face of my error.

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            It’s similar in that you presented a position that was not backed up by a reasonable interpretation of the data you also provided.

            What you did was different, in that is was a brief misunderstanding of the wording rather than a fundamental misunderstanding of causation and correlation.

            it didn’t seem defensive as much as dismissive.

            Honestly i could have just been reading tone in your response that wasn’t there, i get that wrong more often than i would like, if so i apologise.