Yes, I agree but it’s not really what I’m talking about. We just all need to take care to keep our platform healthy and on the right track lest we lose ground because we’re blind to nuance. A very common and human risk that has to be acknowledged so this doesn’t become just another equally performative, insufferable campaign that loses public support. It’s more important than ever right now as the tide of media is shifting right.
well yeah, but you also don’t want to fall into the stereotype that the right always throws around and actually label people nazis for just not wanting to get involved, there is a difference and we shoot ourselves in the dick every time there’s some huge drama because some liberal doesn’t want to get involved or makes a crass joke and then a thousand tumbler teens accuse them of being Hiter incarnate.
Be un-nuanced about condemning fascism. Just pick your targets correctly, otherwise we’re doing the same thing as when a con screams “think of the children” and uses emotional appeals to create mindless mob hysteria without logic or reason. We can fight strong and smart. Beware thought terminating cliches on both sides.
It’s so easy to not be a Nazi though. Anyone can accuse me of being Hitler incarcerate, I’ll trash Hitler for being such a loser bitch he actually had to off himself because he couldn’t handle what a loser he was. I’ll trash talk Nazis from dawn to dusk for being such gross spineless turds they have to hide their faces when they go out in public.
I don’t see any downsides here. The more people are accused of being a Nazi, the more we can humiliate and dogpile on Nazis, the less anyone feels inclined to think about being a Nazi. The concepts of Nazism should be associated with so much shame that no one ever wants to touch Nazism again.
The more people are accused of being a Nazi, the more we can humiliate and dogpile on Nazis
Okay now you played your hand.
If you actually believe indiscriminate accusations are beneficial to a cause, you’re either as bad as them, or you’re just another goddamn bad-actor pretending to actually care. Or you’re a child with no real investment in this and you’re just saying shit for fun. Just get lost weirdo. We can be so much better than this.
Nazism should be associated with so much shame that no one ever wants to touch Nazism again
Yes, nobody is arguing this, your insistence on this point while obtusely ignoring the actual context here, that just calling anyone a nazi without evidence or reason just harms the left broadly.
Being a Nazi is tribalism.
Being anti-Nazi is being anti-tribalism.
Absolutely everyone is welcome to be anti-Nazi, and we absolutely should all unite together as humanity in being anti-Nazi.
Yes, I agree but it’s not really what I’m talking about. We just all need to take care to keep our platform healthy and on the right track lest we lose ground because we’re blind to nuance. A very common and human risk that has to be acknowledged so this doesn’t become just another equally performative, insufferable campaign that loses public support. It’s more important than ever right now as the tide of media is shifting right.
I don’t see any need for nuance in being anti-Nazi.
well yeah, but you also don’t want to fall into the stereotype that the right always throws around and actually label people nazis for just not wanting to get involved, there is a difference and we shoot ourselves in the dick every time there’s some huge drama because some liberal doesn’t want to get involved or makes a crass joke and then a thousand tumbler teens accuse them of being Hiter incarnate.
Be un-nuanced about condemning fascism. Just pick your targets correctly, otherwise we’re doing the same thing as when a con screams “think of the children” and uses emotional appeals to create mindless mob hysteria without logic or reason. We can fight strong and smart. Beware thought terminating cliches on both sides.
It’s so easy to not be a Nazi though. Anyone can accuse me of being Hitler incarcerate, I’ll trash Hitler for being such a loser bitch he actually had to off himself because he couldn’t handle what a loser he was. I’ll trash talk Nazis from dawn to dusk for being such gross spineless turds they have to hide their faces when they go out in public.
I don’t see any downsides here. The more people are accused of being a Nazi, the more we can humiliate and dogpile on Nazis, the less anyone feels inclined to think about being a Nazi. The concepts of Nazism should be associated with so much shame that no one ever wants to touch Nazism again.
Seems like a big win to me.
Okay now you played your hand.
If you actually believe indiscriminate accusations are beneficial to a cause, you’re either as bad as them, or you’re just another goddamn bad-actor pretending to actually care. Or you’re a child with no real investment in this and you’re just saying shit for fun. Just get lost weirdo. We can be so much better than this.
Yes, nobody is arguing this, your insistence on this point while obtusely ignoring the actual context here, that just calling anyone a nazi without evidence or reason just harms the left broadly.