Long story short, I am not mechanically inclined. I want my shit to just work. Somehow I decided I would order the MK4S upgrade kit for the prusa MK4 that I have. It took me about 12 hours but I did the upgrade and turned it on only to find it wouldn’t boot with a power panic error message.

I tracked it down to a cable that got disconnected during all the upgrading, and when I went to push it back onto the board it bent the pins. When I tried to straighten them out the pens broke off and now I have a $2,000 paperweight on my desk.

EDIT: Ok, i am now rested and calmed down, and no i will not be buying an X1C from the CCP Bambu. Support was indeed super cool, and i’d need to spend another 120 for a new xbuddy since mistakes like this are not under warranty. However, my dad is a lifelong hardware electronics pro, and he seemed to indicate this should be no sweat to fix, so we shall commit mad science before i just buy another one.

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    If it was a bambu you would be buying a new printer without an upgrade path, and since a new printer came out, your old suddenly stops working right like some Apple product. Believe it or not, bambu printers have connectors, likely from the same global supplier too.

    So, where did the Bambu touch you, can you show us on the doll in front of you? 😀

    Come on man, this is a post about a Prusa being f*cked, not an invitation to vent on how you dislike Bambu.
    I want my 3d printer to just work and Bambu fills that category just fine. More than fine actually, it (P1S) has been nothing but a pleasure and joy to work with. The quality it produces is mind boggling (to me at least) and it never, ever gives me headaches about hardware or nonsense like that. I do not like to tinker, I want to print and Bambu does that perfectly imo.

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      In know the history of 3d printing and why I got involved. Bambu changed everything for the worst and forced everyone to lower expectations and business practices. They have been the most toxic community influence to date. Proprietary theft is criminal.

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        Bambu changed everything for the worst and forced everyone to lower expectations and business practices.

        I’m sorry, Bambu forced people to LOWER their expectations…? What expectations are you talking about?

        Bambu made everyone want a printer that prints insanely fast, with incredible quality and zero hassle. I have a friend who is the least tech savvy person I’ve ever met, he genuinely barely knows how to use a computer, but his Bambu prints circles around my heavily modified and upgraded Neptune 3.

        If your “expectations” are literally just, “it’s open source and I can do whatever I want” then yeah a Bambu won’t meet those expectations. But that’s a far cry from “everyone’s” expectations, and I definitely wouldn’t say that they “forced” other businesses to follow suite.

        Bambu is making printing accessible to non-enthusiasts. Their products aren’t always going to align with what old-heads are looking for, but the benefit of knowing what you’re doing is that you can decide for yourself not to go that route. Nothing on God’s green Earth can stop you from sourcing parts and building a Voron that does exactly what you want, no matter what Bambu does, but now that 3D printing is entering the mainstream, the mainstream needs a way to print, and Bambu is there to fill that gap in the market.

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          The entire hobby should have started in the 1980’s. It did not because of proprietary anti competitive cowards. RepRap and Adrian Bowyer created the entire 3d printing hobby and community. The whole thing only exists because of these. The exploitation of this community is the only issue I care about. I will call out thieves every time. You may love stollen goods. I can’t change your ethics. I will not call them reasonable or morally right.

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            If Bambu were out there suing people for stuff they didn’t make, I’d be more in line with calling them thieves. But the work they have used is still freely available to anyone who wants to use it. Similar to how Sovol sells what is essentially a preassembled Voron; I’m an engineer, I wouldn’t buy one because I’d rather do it myself. But to the hundreds of thousands of people who wouldn’t want to spend a week building a printer, but love the design and concept of the Voron, they now have the option. Everyone with their Voron can continue using it, and everyone who wants to just buy one can.

            I mean, look at the computer industry/ hobby. Started off with a bunch of enthusiats building crap in their garage. Computers became important, businesses started taking note, and now when the average person thinks of a home computer, they think “Dell, HP, Apple”. But all the other stuff didn’t just go away. There’s still a huge, thriving community of people who slapped their stuff together and run the jankiest, least proprietary OS possible on them. Nothing’s stopping them from doing what they want to do, but now everyone else can do it, too.

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              Absolutely not. No present computer can be built from scratch. The bootloader and microcode are proprietary. People slapping parts into a case are not building anything. No one can read the datasheets and build a machine like Woz, for some unethical asshat like Jobs to steal. The hardware is undocumented at this level and is now propriety because of a culture of moral decay. When x86 got established, it was only because it was open source with full documentation, and not only that, it was required to be second and third sourced to ensure no one could manipulate customers even with just the sourcing. That culture of never trusting companies and accountability is dead.

              Trust, required for proprietary products, is feudalism. Ultimately that loss of ownership rights is a coup against democracy itself when normalized in culture. This is a dystopian world I recognize for its broad implications for a terrible dystopian future and wholly reject. I can only affect change in myself, and tell others. It is a complicated balance.

              I will not hesitate to speak up with my personal opinion. However, my personal opinion is not a moderator here. I really should edit the community details to make my position clear. I have a policy of very conservative moderation. I have communicated to other mods and mentioned openly that my policy towards moderation is to never take actions when I am involved in a conversation. I will defer to other mods if ever necessary.

              My personal opinions hold no sway over moderation here. Guerilla marketing is prohibited, but determining so in practice follows a set of undisclosed rules that will remain undisclosed to avoid gaming them.

              I am only human. I can be easy to dislike by many, so I am told anecdotally. I’m very abstract in my thinking and reasoning. One of the positives to such an abstracted personality is that I am, I believe, more capable than average of disconnecting my internal sense of morality and beliefs from my actions in judgment of others. I value the idealized judge I wish I had, altruistically, in the actions I take for or against others far more than enforcing any internal emotional perspective I retain. In other words, I care about the community members more than my principals that are intended to better said community. I will never attempt to hurt the community to shape it to my will or dilutions of an ideologue incapable of adjusting to reality, even dystopia.

              As a person, I’ll never shut up or stop pointing out that proprietary is the refuge of criminal thieves and cowards. That it is selling yourself and ultimately citizenship and democracy in the biggest picture. However, as a moderator I welcome all to share their experiences in 3d printing, completely unhindered and openly. I will not stop them from sharing in any way, but I will not silence those that object for moral reasons either, so long as both sides remain respectful and positive overall. Hopefully that clearly defines my stance and puts any doubts to rest.

              There is no reason to worry about the ambiguity of that moderator tag here. I engaged, therefore in this place, by my own rules, I am not a mod in this instance or any other similar instance. I will always tell users directly if I question or engage as a moderator, and this is only applicable in instances where I am not already involved. As a mod, I am only here as the janitor to herd bots and sort out issues like bigotry. The community is just as much yours as it is mine as a mod and as a user. As a fellow human, I do not matter here any more than you.

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        Thanks for that bit of laughter! 😂
        You just described the Buggy Whip metaphor pretty darn good.

        Guess you liked the matrix printers (or perhaps type writers?) better then these newfangled laser printers with their fancy ‘lasers’ and whatnots? Not a real question, just a fun tease at your expense.