• Dog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    221·
    10 months ago

    Are you forgetting that the Galaxy S5 had a removable back and still had an IP rating?

      • SokathHisEyesOpen@lemmy.mlEnglish
        141·
        10 months ago

        Watches can be waterproof to hundreds of meters deep and they have removable backs. It’s not about the waterproofing, it’s about not letting you change the battery so you have to buy a whole new phone when the battery stays dying. It’s forced obsolescence.

      • Dog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        31·
        10 months ago

        Yet they still did it. So regardless if it’s easier or not, they can still do it that way.

    • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      51·
      10 months ago

      Are you saying it’s not easier to just not have a hole than it is to seal a hole?

      I’m not thrilled about it either, but it’s obvious why they prefer it.

      • Dog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        They need microphones and speakers. There’s gonna be holes regardless.

        • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          10 months ago

          Yeah. But you remove the sim card assembly (BOM), connector/solder pads (system design and internal space) and remove potential ingress points. It’s just easier and cheaper from engineering through to production.

          • MaximumPower@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            Dude, they have under water cameras , you can swim with fucking whales with a huge ass cameras, I’m not going swimming with my phone. Fick all these ratings, it’s not like they would make it cheaper for you. Give me back changeable batteries, I’m not fucking fish.

            • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              10 months ago

              They’re chasing IP ratings. I like not losing a phone when I make a dumb, but prefer lightly sealed or unsealed with a replaceable battery. My LG V20 was the bees knees.

              • MaximumPower@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                10 months ago

                Yes, and you can travel to space with a rocket. Common what kind of argument is that. You forgot the steps in between.

                Thanks for sending me to space in this rocket, but how do I get home.

          • Dog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            3·
            10 months ago

            Idk, apple replaced their sim card slot with… Plastic. A plastic insert. “Internal Space”

            • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              They’re making SIM and non-SIM versions so that let’s them use the same tooling for both versions. It’s still a BOM reduction, but yeah, the other points would be a much smaller impact.

            • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              I’m not entirely sure how much of a difference it would make in reality, but they’re probably doing it for a reason. Though, with google devices, they may just be trying to nudge other manufacturers in a direction for their own reasons. Google phones help them set and maintain certain standards without trying to force other manufacturers to do what they want.

              Is there a motive you see for Google to do this that isn’t per-unit cost savings?

              • Dog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                2·
                10 months ago

                As users in this discussion have said, Google just wants more control.