• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    They’re right.

    Democrats lost votes on Immigration , the Israeli genocide in Gaza and economic perception.

    There may have been some lgbtq voters that were reluctant… but they weren’t even close to the largest losses of voters.

    Ultimately, they fucked up messaging on the economy and tried to persuade unpersuadable “centrists” by taking up Trump’s own immigration policy. And then there’s the blatant and nearly unconditional support of Israel.

    Dems need to realize that centrists are already going to vote one way or the other. You can’t sacrifice your base for a small fraction of people who claim to be “undecided”.

    And you certainly won’t convince some idiot willing to vote for trump.

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      6 days ago

      Exactly what is the Democrats base these days? I am genuinely curious. Because it seems they don’t have one and don’t listen to what any normal person wants.

      Health care? Improving or even maintaining infrastructure? Education? Affordable housing?

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        The Democratic National Party believes they are entitled to all progressive votes in the U.S. by sole virtue of being the lesser evil, so they don’t feel like they need to appeal to their progressive voter base.

        I personally think the “undecided, conservative centrists” that the DNC keeps trying to court every election are a myth, but presumably that’s the base they think they need to win.

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          6 days ago

          It apparently worked for the last 30+ years. And it led to the current Orange Cheeto that will hasten the demise of the US empire.

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      7 days ago

      Dems need to realize that centrists are already going to vote one way or the other. You can’t sacrifice your base for a small fraction of people who claim to be “undecided”.

      This supposes that their stated reason for moving to the right was their actual reason for moving to the right.

      They moved to the right because they wanted to and thought they could get away with it. The sprint rightward on immigration, the support for genocide, the parroting of republican anti-trans hate in their own ads, the Cheney endorsements and so on were Democratic politicians telling us exactly what they are.