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If your employer requires you to have a phone for official use, keep it separate from your personal phone; different device, different number, different networks if possible (ie: only let it join your home’s guest network). Don’t do personal things on your work devices, including logging into personal services, social networks or communication tools.
Isn’t the purpose of a guest network to be on its own VLAN and not have access to things on your home network? Is there another reason? (Additional information like ISP and IP are all I can think of.)
It’s just for disallowing connecting to any other home devices, like you say. Wouldn’t want some spyware on the corporate device to snoop around.
Microsoft does the same crap with Office 365’s apps that support both a personal and corporate account. I have to authenticate with my company if I want to use outlook to access my personal account. If you have multiple accounts, and one is corporate, your IT team can enable enterprise privacy crap that sits on top of the entire client, including personal accounts.
The obvious workaround is to not use outlook for personal email, but still, WTF.
On Android, just use a work profile https://support.google.com/work/android/answer/6191949?hl=en
You can even turn it on/off with one tap.
The obvious solution is ot not ever use anything Microsoft.
If your work requires it, then require they give you a phone as you suddenly don’t have one, it broke or something
The obvious workaround is to not use outlook for personal email, but still, WTF.
You kind of have too when working with an email client that can present a unified view of email from multiple accounts. That doesn’t mean the IT folks can read the email attached to your person accounts though, neither can they delete it. All they can do is force Outlook to deconfigure itself and / or wipe your phone.
It’s the second part that’s the bigger problem. Wiping my phone could kill my personal 2FA apps, like Aegis, if I didn’t have them backed up.
Every company tries to get people to use personal phones. It takes some gumption to refuse.
My company pays a flat $80 each month for us to use our personal phones. I don’t think they have any access outside of their Microsoft 365 stuff. I like it better than having to manage two phones but I know people here are crazy about privacy.
I mean…they could have just said no and used a company phone, right? What am I missing? This just seems like they were telling people they could have their personal phone serve as a work phone as long as it was an iPhone because Apple is confident they can put their software on it for remote management.
If someone working for Apple didn’t know they are giving up some privacy by using their personal phone as a company managed work phone, then I’m not sure what they’ve learned in their tech career. I just worked at the Genius Bar as a college kid, and even I understood that—thus I never used my personal phone for work things and just used one of the hundreds of devices that were available for employees to use at work.
what does you knowing something bAcK iN tHe DaY have to do with shit hole apple not giving a shit about privacy?
Again, I asked “what am I missing.”
So…what am I missing? They installed company management software on their personal phone and they weren’t forced to.
you’re missing a brain and spine.
apple is “encouraging” employees to use personal devices for work then “getting access” to that employee’s personal info.
This isn’t new to Apple. A lot of companies want to save money so they offer to pay for your phone or give you some other incentive. In my previous job, people who were around for 10-15 years had given up their personal phone and were using company phone and number. When they left they took their work phone with them. They got a new phone every 24 months but they had to install the company MDM software so basically gave up their “privacy” to save money. The cellphone plans aren’t cheap so they probably saved $1000 per year just for cellular connection alone.
