i love it when modders get so up their own ass, they make themselves look moronic to everyone.
i recall the huge cringy “petition” made by BG3 modders demanding to be told what fixes would come in patches made by devs because they were “fed up” with having to fix their mods after patches would break things.
its quite funny when modders think they run the show.
Except when they do run the show like for Bethesda games. They won’t or can’t fix their own shit.
I don’t know about the specific situation you are talking about, but this sounds like a perfectly fine request. Needing to spent time debugging your mod at random because an unexpected patch just dropped and players suddenly can’t use it anymore doesn’t sound fun. Especially considering how little extra work it would take the studio to document their fix to the mod community a bit early.
its not the request, its the entitlement that the letter displays.
they did not create this game. they are not entitled to demand and petition for such things. stuff being updated and breaking mods is annoying, but it happens.
modders do not own the game they mod for. nor are they entitled to be included in development updates just because they’re annoyed that they need to fix issues that may arise as a result of a game being patched by those who made it.
Sure, but it’s that wrong to asking for something? The studio can always ignore such request.
Many games welcome mods, because those can increase interest in the game or provide new ideas.
asking for something is completely reasonable. but behaving like you’re entitled to that and trying to divide the community seems to me to be a bit of a dick move.
mods are just that. mods. they modify the original work with their own additions. just because someone mods something, does not mean they’re in the position to behave in such a manner.
i was very put off by the wording in that open letter and I was not the only one. the community it was originally posted in also picked up on the antagonistic way it was written.
I don’t see what you find cringy or entitled from this open letter, they explain the problems they encounter while working on mods and explain how Larian can help with that. This is the best way to handle such a request as a group.
And no, they aren’t entitled to their demands, but that doesn’t mean that those demands aren’t admissible. While they do not own the game itself, they do contribute to it’s success and the studio will benefit from helping them.
Also, it seems like you view modding as just some small tweaks for the fun of it (which might be the case for bg3, but from the letter it doesn’t seem so), but some game mods can become fairly huge, both in work size and popularity. While I don’t know much about the bg3 scene, I remember quite a few minecraft modders who received death threats because they “took too long” to update their mods to the latest version. There’s a real pressure behind that work, you can’t just brush it off because “they don’t own the game”
Demand and petition are opposite, genius.
Don’t treat customers as if anything short groveling for crumbs is acting above their station. People who adore this product got together on their own time to hash out why, specifically, they feel dissatisfied. They collaboratively presented a single document explaining what could go better and why it’s important. And you’re treating that like it’s some 90s edgelord with an I HATE BG3 page on GeoCities because they didn’t add any of the cool story ideas he e-mailed them.
What exactly is negative about people saying, ‘We’re excited to sink a shitload of time into adding stuff to this game for free, please do more technical communication?’
Damn involved community, trying to make all their improvements count! The freeloaders!
improvement is one thing. acting like an entitled bunch of brats is another thing entirely.
… Jesus, is that what you think whining looks like? That’s the most polite request for information possible, after a bunch of people got together and discussed it amongst themselves.
“Larian, we love your work and the passion you put into your games. Some of us have been modding or making tools for your games for years, through multiple games, through thick and through thin. We do this because we care, and we want to see the community improve. All we ask is that if you do “love [us],” then please talk to us."
Those DAMN BRATS!!! Look at how entitled they are!
nitpick: they were dubbed as anticitizens by the person decompiling the code, and not by the original code author
ahh yes, if you block them from playing, surely they won’t make any content about that and will go on with their day. Brilliant idea. 🙄
Yup. Feeding the trolls. Doomed to failure.
I mean, its not trolling if the mod has persistent issues that keep not getting addressed and those keep getting pointed out. Like folks pointing out how bad darksydephil is at video games isn’t trolling because he’s legit awful at video games. It can cross the line of course, but just pointing out the dude is trash isn’t doing that.
Though, to be fair, I don’t know the youtubers in question so maybe they are just huge assholes. vOv
Those mod devs are absolute assholes.
As per the decompiled code, the game will refuse to load in certain cases with the message “Upgrade your PC, the current hardware is just ridiculous.” I can understand not wanting to field support requests from extremely outdated hardware, but being condescending and not even giving players the option to try playing it…
BriJee, Amigus, and Obsolete— sincerely, go fuck yourselves.
