• warm@kbin.earth
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    2 days ago

    I have an idea, let’s make a video sharing website and add no volume control at all!

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      Please keep in mind that it is a Tiktok replacement - i.e. meant for mobile devices, as the vertical nature suggests. And mobile devices already have volume controls? Hence that is a “mute” button, not a volume control, and while the project is still in its early stages, I doubt that they would add that functionality bc it would introduce tension between the user’s natural inclination to hit their device volume knob rather than have to use the embedded control.

      On the other hand, I see SO MANY people criticizing the lack of that feature, perhaps they should make the video player work slightly differently when viewed from a desktop? But is that really what people want - wouldn’t people on a desktop still not enjoy watching content on a vertical axis that was meant for a mobile screen?

      It’s probably a cost to benefit trade-off that they have to make hard decisions on, given how few people are willing to devote their time in return for no remuneration to this project. Honestly I’m surprised that so many people on Lemmy of all places aren’t receptive to such a FOSS project in its early stages yet coming along so quickly.

      I hope you don’t feel that I’m picking on you, just sharing my thoughts. Please feel free to respond however you like:-).

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        Yeah it’s all good. But it is not a mobile app, it’s a ‘web app’ able to be shared on desktops, so it needs a volume control.

        They could disable the volume slider on mobile devices I suppose, they can link to the actual volume of the device anyway, so it would just be an alternative to pressing the buttons.

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          Yeah, that sounds like a good idea for a feature. But somebody would have to implement it first, and there’s so much else to do as well, it may be awhile until they get around to it.

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          Huh, I did not realize there were any apps. The web link works for me, in Firefox on Android. I wonder if you have a permissions problem and need to allow access to the speakers, but I am out of my element not having used iOS myself for a decade, though I wish you luck.🤞🍀

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      Why would i bother with player-specific volume controls when my OS’ volume controls are right there, easier to access and work the same across anything I’m doing?

      Edit: being downvoted for asking a question, cool

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        Because adjusting the entire PC volume for one video is silly. I have the volume set how I like for everything, so having to adjust that everytime is annoying, when like every other video sharing site has a volume control and it remembers the level I set.

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        I hear you. From what other people are saying elsewhere: they have their volume set for other things - perhaps Zoom calls at work - and don’t want to bother moving it in order to watch these videos. That’s sorta understandable.

        But ofc next they’ll want to enable cookies to remember the volume setting across sessions, and then having added cookies, there must be a setting to only optionally store the cookies, and then there has to be the pop-up (pop-down?) banner announcement demanding that before you can interact with the page (well not really but it certainly does manage to call attention to itself) that you make a decision about whether you want to store cookies on that site or not.

        I haven’t used a media player specific volume control for YEARS on my non-mobile devices. Perhaps bc I have a dedicated button on my keyboard devoted to volume up/down/mute so can adjust it at a moment’s notice?

        It takes a LOT of effort to be all things to all people. And Loops is new, and looks to be meant for mobile, despite being delivered as a webpage. So if people accessing it via desktop wish that there more features, that is understandable, but it’s also understandable to me why those features aren’t there yet?

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          having added cookies, there must be a setting to only optionally store the cookies

          Setting aside that this feature wouldn’t even need cookies, that’s not how it works. Functional cookies that aren’t used for tracking don’t need any user information or consent, even under GDPR.