• maplebar@lemmy.world
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    • Did throwing the election to Trump and the Republicans do anything to help save Palestine or end the war?
    • How would you describe what happened on October 7th, 2023?
    • Are you willing to concede that the Palestinians also have had agency and culpability in the events that have lead up to today?
    • Do you accept that calls for “Palestine to be free, from the river to the sea”, as well much of the historical rhetoric of Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, has been openly calling for genocide against Israeli Jews?
    • Would you be willing to acknowledge that both Israelis and Palestinians have some loose historical claim to the Levant based on the tribal lineage of their people going back >3000 years?
    • Would you describe Islam as a “religion of peace” even though it was spread almost entire through violent conquest going back to ~600AD?
    • Do you believe in a two-state solution?
    • Do you believe that America has a duty to the protection and support of its own people over any duty to solve the problems of the rest of the world?
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        3 hours ago

        Of course Israel has done wrong things, as have the Palestinians. This is a war that has been going on for ~80 years in a part of the world that has been fought over and ruled by dozens of empires over the last 3000 years.

        Both sides of this conflict are guilty of terrible shit, but none of that is worth holding American secular democracy hostage.