• b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 days ago

    What do you mean “their preferred candidate”. Is everyone opposed to genocide a Trump supporter now? You’ve completely lost the plot.

    In every analysis Harris’s loss was due to being an out of touch corporate Democrat and not appealing to the working class.

    Also Rashida Tlaib was opposed to the genocide and won seats. If you had pushed Harris to break from Biden and oppose the genocide in any way shape or form she would have only gained voters. Morality aside that was a bad strategy.

    Regardless, Palestine was not the deciding factor in the Libs getting demolished, it was their own hubris and inability to take a Sander’s style hard swing to the left and fight for working people.

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      11 days ago

      the Libs getting demolished

      Yeah that’s such a lib thing to say.

      Here’s your trump order. Good luck.

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        11 days ago

        I know it’s hard to imagine but there are people further to the left of rich corporate Democrat libs. They fucked up and they need to learn from their mistakes and finally put economically left Democrats like Bernie Sanders and AOC into power just like many have been yelling and screaming at them to do for years if they want any chance if that’s even possible at this point.

        They can’t just follow Republicans further to the right, doing nothing for working people, following Trump on border policies, policing policies, giving money to their rich friends, do a genocide, then sprinkle on some vague culture war bullshit then call it a day and expect to win.

        Or you can just call anyone who calls you out a Trumpist, change nothing, and keep losing.

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          I know it’s hard to imagine but there are people further to the left of rich corporate Democrat libs.

          I seriously don’t know anyone who uses “libs” in any sense other than to imitate trolls and right-wing nutjobs.

          They fucked up and they need to learn from their mistakes

          Very genocide Joe of you. Zero help, all bitching. It’s genuinely shocking this . . . what politics are you supposedly representing again? . . . Anyway, it’s surprising that it hasn’t skyrocketed in popularity. Must be those rich Democrat libs and their (((media))) stranglehold, am i right? Lotsa (((globalists))) in there, aren’t there. Yeah. You know what i’m talkin about. You get it. They need to learn, y’know. Them.

          Or you can just call anyone who calls you out a Trumpist, change nothing, and keep losing.

          Calls me out for what. Voting for Harris? Yeah you got a built-in posse for that now too, don’t ya. You get to rub ethos with your favorite Ohio sheriffs. Speaking of changing nothing, you can claim ignorance, or moral superiority, or intellectual purity, or whatever purity you claim to wield, but the fact is your (in)actions have bought you and the rest of us four years of drowning in shit and since you’re not willing to see that, we’ll probably do it again in four years.

          You wanna get Bernie or AOC on the ticket? I’d love to see it. But we both know if it happens you’ll have nothing to do with it. What happens when they compromise with some entity that’s not as pure and authentic as you? When they accept corporate money? Horrors! You’ll be forced to shit on them too, and find new symbols for your paper-thin, skewed, losing takes on national politics.