ID: line drawing of an upright bunny with a black bandana tied around their neck, holding a lit match in their mouth like you might a toothpick. The text says “we can’t just vote fascism away, the time has come to disobey. (be brave!)”

  • balderdash@lemmy.zipEnglish
    31·
    17 days ago

    The word you’re looking for is: civil disobedience. Break laws, get attention. Our grandparents did the same thing during Vietnam.

    • ShareMySims@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      41·
      17 days ago

      No, the word you’re looking for might be civil disobedience, but there is nothing civil about what I have in mind, nor should there be.

      I reserve my civility for those who extend it to me, not for fucking fascists and Nazis who want to kill marginalised people for who we are.

      Also, considering how long the Vietnam travesty went on for, and how little, if any, impact the protests against it had, I wouldn’t be so quick to use them as a reference.

      • balderdash@lemmy.zipEnglish
        12·
        17 days ago

        These are technical terms. There’s legal protest, then civil disobedience—this is how we ended Jim Crow; a lot of people had to go to jail to fight the system—and then there’s domestic terrorism. If you don’t think civil disobedience is going far enough, then you’re advocating for terrorism.

        • ShareMySims@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          51·
          17 days ago

          this is how we ended Jim Crow

          Yeah, and got whatever shit still remains today, including systemic white supremacy and slavery.

          As for the imaginary line between “protest”, “freedom fighting”, and “terrorism”, it is one your oppressor has defined to make sure people like you turn your backs on those actually brave enough to take on them and their system in the only meaningful way there is to oppose it. Maybe consider thinking more critically about the world and who defines its rules for you.

          So while we’re bringing up grandparents - I’m going to take my lead from some of my own, who were armed partisans in the Polish forests, and armed fighters in a ghetto rebellion, shooting Nazis because they knew it is the only way to defeat them. (E: and if you’re only ok with people fighting back once they’re in the cage, you have chosen the side of those doing the caging)

          Enjoy your sit in, those of us directly in the firing line don’t have time to learn our lessons from the white washed history those who want to suppress us teach.

          E: oh, and while we’re here, and since you brought up Jim Crow, maybe consider the words of MLK, and where you fit in on the demanding order over justice scale:

          I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.