“This is a collapse of the Democratic Party.” Consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader comments on the reelection of Donald Trump and the failures of the Democratic challenge against him. Despite attempts by left-wing segments of the Democratic base to shift the party’s messaging toward populist, anti-corporate and progressive policies, says Nader, Democrats “didn’t listen.” Under Trump, continues Nader, “We’re in for huge turmoil.”

“This is a collapse of the Democratic Party.” Consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader comments on the reelection of Donald Trump and the failures of the Democratic challenge against him.

Despite attempts by left-wing segments of the Democratic base to shift the party’s messaging toward populist, anti-corporate and progressive policies, says Nader, Democrats “didn’t listen.” Under Trump, continues Nader, “We’re in for huge turmoil.”

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    1513·
    17 days ago

    Kamala Harris would not even be an issue if Nader hadn’t spoiled the 2000 election.

    Because Gore would have been president and everything would have been different.

    So no, fuck Ralph Nader.

    • CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee
      44·
      17 days ago

      Gore lost because George Bush’s brother, Jeb, invalidated a bunch of ballots and stopped a recount as governor of Florida.

      Besides that, this argument is absurd as it would be just as valid to say that Gore spoiled the election for Nader and if Gore hadn’t run, Nader would have been elected president instead of George W.

      Quit trying to externalize the blame for the actions of the party leadership. These faults should have been clear to you in 2016 when they handed the White House to Trump, and again in 2020 when their candidate only narrowly defeated Trump (especially at a time when Trump had already wrecked the economy and COVID was skyrocketing and this was fresh on everyone’s mind).

      You seem to keep insisting that everyone else needs to adjust to meet you in backing candidates that keep losing when maybe you should be the one adjusting to meet others. Sliding further and further right isn’t a winning strategy for Dems and that should be quite obvious by now.

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        42·
        17 days ago

        Gore lost by few enough votes that there are a multitude of people who could have acted differently to produce a win. You can pick and choose who you want to blame and everyone is right.

    • dank@lemmy.today
      34·
      17 days ago

      And if Adam didn’t eat the apple, we’d all be lounging naked in paradise.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        21·
        17 days ago

        So you’re comparing something that literally happened within the lifetime of most people here with something that’s totally fictional?

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            11·
            17 days ago

            2000 is ancient history to you?

            Just how old are you?

            Also, since you seem to think Adam and Eve counts as history, I think I understand why reality is an issue for you.