• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    Higher minimum wage and UBI are the answer, and higher calling doesn’t mean anything besides doing something someone else cant.

    Janitors are important. There is not an argument for removing janitors. If only one in 100 people can be a janitor, then janitors will make an assload of money. If 100 of 100 people can do it, the one that gets the janitor job is the one who will take the least money to do minimum quality work and it won’t be much money. That person is not “taking one for the team”, they are unable to do anything else that pays more (or they will do that) or they just love janitoring, and they were willing to take the lowest amount of money.

    You are, again, mixing morality into commerce: the value of a thing or a job is identically what someone will pay/accept for it (which, considering above comments, includes collective bargaining and so on). It’s not a matter of “think of their human worth / think of their bodies / the world would be so much worse if nobody did that job!”. Those are all important considerations, but that’s for society and law to decide.

    Worth and value are not the same (even if they should be): one is set by the market and one is set by us as people. If the market says your worth is low, well, right now youre hosed and it might even be your fault. Your argument appears to me to be that worth and value MUST be the same or the market is evil, and it isn’t the fault of the market. GOTO paragraph 1 lol.

    Edit: oh, to go full circle, IMO the skilled vs unskilled labor discussion speaks to the “worth” or what the market will pay for a job.