• pound_heap@lemm.ee
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    Oh come on, the header is a clickbait. There is a US military base in Israel already, it’s been there for years. The article is about an announcement that they are sending another missile defense battery with personnel alongside

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      There are 100 more US soldiers deployed, aren’t there? I’m not a US citizen, but I still wonder why more troops are needed to help Israel in an war of aggression that violates international law.

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        Yes it’s an anti-missle battery and a crew of 100 to operate it. Presumably this includes 7-day around the clock shift coverage so it sounds like a reasonable number for a large missle array.

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        Lol,maybe because Hezbollah rockets are getting launched and we’d like to shoot them down before US personnel are killed potentially escalating this even further?

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          Maybe we should get the US personnel out instead of sending more, then.

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            You’re both right. We want to protect our servicemen there from Hezzbollah rockets and they shouldn’t be there in the first place.

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          we’d like to shoot them down before US personnel are killed potentially escalating this even further?

          So we’re sending more personal instead of getting them out of the situation? Gymnastics.

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          Let the rockets rain down and stop this madness before the fascist state of Israel kills us all.

          Do Americans really believe they’ll be able to get their pet monster under control once they genocide the entire Middle East?

          “Greater Israel” is just going to keep expanding unless they’re stopped now. Do you think Nazi Germany would just say “ok we have enough land for the master race / chosen people let’s stop now”.

          Do you really think America will have any power once it gets to that point?

          The world let Zionists get away with the Nakba at the time because of the Holocaust, but now the Zionists and the United States are the ones doing a Holocaust.

          Israel is a failure of humanity and an affront to Jewish people everywhere, hijacking the religion in order to build a white supremacist, genocidal, settler-colonial apartheid ethnostate with a Star of David slapped on it.

          Israel must now be dismantled, land back to the Palestinians, the architects of this Holocaust brought to justice, and the people deprogrammed out of their genocidal cult.

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            Do Americans really believe they’ll be able to get their pet monster under control once they genocide the entire Middle East?

            I don’t think any Americans who truly support this think further than the next quarter of Raytheon profits.

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          Gtfo. If you need to play wargames maybe send some more support to Ukraine instead.

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          I’ve got an idea to prevent this from escelating further: Depose Netan-fucking-Yahu.

          The UN and the US Citizens would praise it if anything. China and Russia would say shit about it but they also say shit about us doing nothing. We can literally only gain from destroying the Israel current administration.

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            Absolutely. However, there is no need to destroy anyone. It would be enough for the US to give up its unconditional support for the Netanyahu regime. Then Netanyahu would be voted out and would go to prison for corruption in his own country.

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              Ok but that does nothing to stop genocide, land theft, terrorism, invasions, etc.

              It’s a joke to pretend like yahoo is the root problem.

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                I’m just trying to suggest a reasonably solution. I don’t think Israel could afford to keep this inhumane war going if they didn’t have the support of the US. Let us also not forget that it was radical right-wing Zionists who assassinated Yitzchak Rabin, the Israeli politician who first credibly promised peace in the region. What I want to say is this: Violence and hatred cannot be a solution - this only leads to more violence and more hatred, more misery and more suffering.

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          Who is “we”?

          Maybe I’d have some sympathy for you if y’all stop with the genocide, terrorism, ethnic cleansing, land theft, invasions, etc.

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        Yeah, I see someone already told you that American soldiers have been there already, long ago this new deployment. But they didn’t bother to prove it to you, and you didn’t believe them.

        Well, let me Google it for you. Very quick search reveals this article from 2017:

        https://apnews.com/general-news-2ccf317f293d4be59b92cec5554c3db4

        Back then it was “dozens of soldiers”, nothing close to thousands another person claimed, though. But I think it’s safe to assume the numbers grew since then.

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          I’m not disputing this, I’m just asking for clarity so I can understand key facts. Are there soldiers actively serving in Israel? How many? Since when?

          That article didn’t actually provide much clarity. I tried searching for more, and found a bit in this article:

          https://theintercept.com/2023/10/27/secret-military-base-israel-gaza-site-512/

          The main thing this says is that US military presence in Israel is deliberately ambiguous. For instance, the day after the commemoration in the article you shared, US European Command actually denied that this was a us military base, insisting that it was actually a “living facility”.

          I don’t doubt that we have troops there. But historically the army doesn’t seem to acknowledge them. So announcing sending people does seem significant.

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      It’s only a huge deal if we talk about doing the same for actual allies like Ukraine instead of Netanyahu’s rogue regime