I always wondered this since I noticed that a lot of cars always have at least some damage to their pinch weld jack points, usually from hydraulic jacks, lack of adapters, or dropping the car onto jack stands hard. I get it not everyone has the right equipment or experience but it also seems like a poor and cheap design from the manufacturers. Why hasn’t there been a method or aftermarket product that kinda bulks up the pinch welds. Hell I don’t think I ever seen someone even weld or bolt on some steel to kind of guard the pinch welds from bending. Is there a reason for that, like structurally? Why are those hockey puck looking adapters the norm, just because its easier?

Tldr: Many vehicles suffer damage to their pinch weld jacking points from improper use of jacks, prompting the question of why there isn’t a robust aftermarket solution or protective design from manufacturers to prevent this issue, besides those hockey puck looking adapters?

  • DempstersBox@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Unibody cars, as in, the ones with the pinch welds under discussion, don’t have a frame

    The sheet metal is the frame.

    Which, in my opinion, is why nobody gives a shit-any car built like that was built to be disposable fucking garbage.

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      2 months ago

      Unibodies do have a frame it’s just not a completely separate assembly like a ladder frame.

      As others have said there are lots of places to jack a car. Nobody uses the flange on the rocker panels unless they’re trying to change a tire roadside with the emergency jack.

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      2 months ago

      Exactly, jack points are an afterthought, it might have to be lifted for changing a flat, but otherwise it’ll be on a lift platform at a shop, you’re not hoisting it on Jacks at home to do work on it.

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      2 months ago

      There’s almost always a subframe, and where it bolts to the car is my go-to jack point. Bolt #2 would get it.

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        2 months ago

        This must be on modern monstrosities, I’ve literally never encountered this.

        The newest vehicle I’ve ever had was a 95, and I am entirely unimpressed with anything made before 93