Sometimes I enjoy talking to feminists and misandrists. It helps me to understand their viewpoints. Some feminists are open to debate and some are not. I don’t try to change their minds. It can be pretty toxic.
I was messaged by feminists on reddit. They read my post history. I haven’t said anything misogynistic. They called me an “incel” and a “misogynist”. I remained calm when they hurled insults. If I lashed out, it would prove to them I am a misogynist. They want their opponents to get angry.
One woman who messaged me said she is proud to be a misandrist. She said men are worthless, driven by hormones, and many other nonsense things. She also said women don’t perpetrate domestic violence. Eventually I got her to calm down and she became more respectful.
I think a lot of feminists misunderstand what MRAs believe in and want. There was a question in the r/askfeminists sub if feminists would collaborate with MRAs. Many of the feminists said no. One commenter said MRAs are misogynists. Another said men are not oppressed, so there’s no need for MRAs. Some people hate us for doing the right thing.
Some feminists have told me there’s a difference between feminists and misandrists. Most feminists think they’re normal people. I think some misandrists use feminism to their benefit. Governments and corporations definitely use feminism against men.
I don’t know too many feminists in real life. I don’t talk about feminism or politics with the women I know. It is silently understood that most people believe in equality. I’m also an egalitarian.
After knowing about men’s issues, I don’t want to pretend like they don’t exist. If I started dating a feminist, I don’t think my political views would align with hers. I’m not sure if it would be a good idea to talk about men’s issues.
Do you think it’s better to avoid dating women who identify as feminists? If you date a feminist, is it a good idea to talk about men’s issues?
Or wait, hear me out - that is what it’s like to have different opinions on a topic and talk about it. Does not mean to drop your own opinion immediately. You read what others people arguments and try to understand where they are coming from, and share your arguments and try to make your view more understandable to others.
Please show me where I pet myself on the back?
And since you read my other comments here - If someone makes a convincing I will always acknowledge that. It’s just that most arguments brought up here, seem to me to come from deep misunderstand of feminism. Obviously you think exact the same about me. And I’m a curious person who likes to see where such arguments go.
By the way, care to elaborate what exactly I have said that offended you?
You’re not reading them tho, you’re immediately denying anything that might point fault at feminism and finding a way to blame men instead.
Such as with the Duluth Model. Which, when challenged with, you immediately went to “that’s not feminisms fault” despite not knowing what it was (bigoted feminist legislation), who wrote it (feminists), who doctored research to support it (feminists, and we have proof it was bullshit, as one of the authors testified they ignored any data that didn’t support their view), and who pushed it on society with the bullshit claim that women were greater victims of domestic violence than men (feminists, again, after fixing the data to make sure it showed that)
Your fallacious bullshit is obvious, so no you’re not “having a discussion”, because you haven’t understood a single point laid before you, in any of the 4 other threads I’ve seen you post in