Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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    All the Chinese people in China who I totally really know in real life for sure. Those Chinese people in China that I totally really know all say they love love Xi. It’s totally because they really really want to and not because dissent isn’t allowed. They totally didn’t start making grade schoolers go to several extra hours of school a day to learn to worship Xi 2 years ago btw. Also there is no air pollution in Beijing. Did I mention I totally know some Chinese people. You’re all a bunch of sheltered white libs…not like me. I mean yeah, I am a lib, only 15, white, and I do live in my parents basement…but I know things, things that you don’t. There’s no way other people have any experience of the world so you have to believe, because I pretend…I mean DO, I do know some Chinese people in China and they are Chinese. They totally love their Chinese life in China where everyone has 120% literacy rate and reads 5 astrophysics books on their way to work in Beijing where there’s no air pollution in China.

    …China

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      “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

      Sorry, which country is brainwashing people to worship their country from childhood? I forget.

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        Who said shit about worshiping the US? You guys are so pedantic. You are all worried about exact language when it comes to yourselves, but take all kinds of liberties when it comes to others. You don’t even have any goal other than being an asshole. there’s no actual discussion to be had. You just consistently make wild, inaccurate speculation in order to (try to) enrage people. You’re so far off the mark though that it’s completely impotent. Have good life auto-fellating your self-perceived intellect…

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      It really just blows your mind that there are real people with real opinions based on their life experiences that don’t reflect your biases, doesn’t it.

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        It’s just evident that you don’t actually have that real life experience. This is not what Chinese people say when not under duress. Something like 80% of Chinese people not living in China (read, who aren’t forced to support the government) disapprove of the Chinese government. I’ve lived and worked with Chinese people. They don’t say what you say they’re saying. I’ve lived and worked in communist countries. It’s not this socialist utopia you make it out to be. So yeah, it’s pretty clear you don’t have any idea what you’re saying. You keep talking about “Experience” when it’s obvious you don’t have any…I do. So fuck off with your fantastical agenda pushing bullshit.

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          Something like 80% of Chinese people not living in China (read, who aren’t forced to support the government) disapprove of the Chinese government.

          Rich people who can afford to leave and settle permanently in a foreign land disapprove of Communist home country, shocking!

          I’ve lived and worked in communist countries.

          Were you with the CIA or…?

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          Thanks for telling me what 80% [citations needed] of all Chinese people (not counting the vast majority of them because they live in China) think. I’m sure they also appreciate being spoken for. Maybe people who like living in China don’t see a reason to leave? Seems like a pretty obvious explanation, even if I ignore the statistic being direct from your ass.

          Your “real life experience” is a pretty funny idea too, seeing as how you apparently think that all 1.4 billion Chinese people are so effectively controlled that even though they all hate living there they will never let their friends and family know. Seems like a fantasy to me. I could say that about the US “all Americans hate the us and want to leave but they aren’t allowed to say so, so they pretend to like it” it would be patently stupid and there would be no evidence of it, so it’d be on par with your claims.

          As far as a utopia, no one said that but you, it’s just a strawman argument. It is impossible to make an argument that material conditions for people in China are not improving at one of the most rapid rates in the world.

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          It really just blows your mind that there are real people with real opinions based on their life experiences that don’t reflect your biases.

          ^That’s not a retorical question anymore btw.

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          So fuck off with your fantastical agenda pushing bullshit.

          Posted with zero irony from someone with the username “Jesus” who is pushing the standard US state department line like he’s worldly. show us your dick

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          Go to Sydney Chinatown and ask them what the opinion of China is and 80% will be pro China not against.

          Strike up a conversation in Mandarin with a line cook or waitress, any one of the working class.

          Having to pretend to dislike China is a defense mechanism, otherwise the cumskins will turn on you like you’re a subhuman or a spy because they all have attitudes like you, which I do get reinforces the notion that overseas Chinese dislike China. But hate crimes against Asians are on the rise, so better safe than sorry.

          We are not some brainwashed masses at the beck and call of the CPC, liberals like you just don’t understand the concept of critical support. You’re either 100% behind something or 100% against it.

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      Dude I am Chinese. I was born in China, my family is from Tianjin and Wuhan. My grandfather grew up illiterate. His comrades were mostly illiterate. One of my grandfather’s comrades I call 爷爷 was the one that went from a peasant family to living in a flat he owns.

      你认识多少华人?