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PugJesus@kbin.socialBanned from community to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

What "LGB without the T" means

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PugJesus@kbin.socialBanned from community to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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    Bud. If you think reservations are some kind of deluxe poverty, you don’t understand what you’re talking about. Black and brown stripes, because that’s what my people and culture boils down to. Clean water isn’t just some necessity we’d like to have, but it’s literally sacred to us. Our rivers and lakes, poisoned as they are, are still holy to us. We are put on the least arable land possible by hundred year old treaties that are disrespected constantly. Our 7 million are what’s left after 300 years of constant, targeted genocide. Best estimates put the pre colonial population at around 112 million. That’s almost a 95% kill rate. And after all that, we still can’t farm the land we are left with and cannot make our own water clean. I cannot get over “deluxe American poverty” like it even remotely applies to reservations. Has your little shithole ever had concentration camps?

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      Moving goalposts again. You complained the LGBT community and a specific prominent figure haven’t given your cause any attention. You’ve conveniently ignored that part of my reply.

      Are people on reservations today dying of starvation, rampant AIDs, dysentery, cholera, some warlord or child soldier gunning down their home? Seriously, I can keep that list going. And let’s talk objective figures. You know what the life expectancy for native americans is? Just over 70. In my country it’s just over 60. Listen, what your people went through and are going through is and was unjust, no one can deny it - but if you’re going to argue that the level of injustice should dictate who gets more attention, well there’s plenty of other populations way worse off than yours who are getting even less attention. If I were to follow your own argument - my people are suffering way worse, so your people are currently getting way more attention than they deserve. Do you not see how this is absurd?

      Again your figure of 112 million is disingenuous as I stated in my above comment. Yes, my little shithole had concentration camps, many African countries did. You really need to pick up a few history books and do some reading. Some examples:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrafal_concentration_camp
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_concentration_camps_during_the_Mau_Mau_Uprising
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian\_concentration\_camps\_in\_Libya#/media/File:Karte\_Libyen\_italienische\_Konzentrationslager.svg
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps
      https://www.dandc.eu/en/article/german-concentration-camps-what-namibia-today-were-predecessors-nazis-extermination-camps

      And you don’t hold the monopoly on colonial genocide either. Some select examples:

      https://www.genocidewatchblog.com/post/colonialism-and-genocide-in-portuguese-africa
      https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/imperialism-conquest-mass-murder
      https://ajuntament.barcelona.cat/gabinetpostal/lestat-lliure-del-congo-un-genocidi-a-lombra/?lang=en
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Namaqua_genocide
      https://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20150705-hollande-acknowledges-colonial-era-cameroon-massacres-critics-want-apology

      You also conveniently forget millions of Africans were rounded up and sold like cattle to slavery. Only reason they kept any of us alive was to be used as slave labour and kept as property. Is it unfair that some groups get more attention than others? Sure. But it’s not any given oppressed group’s fault and blaming them for it is useless at best, and malicious at worst.

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