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    4 months ago

    I guess it’s just a coincidence that the most conservative Sunni countries are aggressively misogynistic? Unless Wahhabists are actually secret feminists.

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        4 months ago

        “Saudi misogyny is actually the fault of the British” is the second-most hilarious take I’ve read all year, right behind “making fun of LLMs for being bad at math is ableist” (an actual post I read on Mastodon).

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          The Caliphate was Islamic. Saudi waged war against the Caliphate.

          Nothing here blames the British for misogyny. That is a strawman.

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      It’s more like societies with endogamous communal family structures like Islam – not even Sunni in particular. The worst misogyny historically doesn’t even happen there though but in exogamous communal family structures, things like widow burning in India, feet binding in China, or rape of your daughter-in-law in Russia: In the endogamous setting, all the misogyny is happening within a clan structure that includes the woman’s close kin, while in the exogamous setting she’s on her own.

      Anthropologists are still very much in the process of figuring stuff out but particular family structures correlating to differing preferences in political ideology is a very interesting topic, it’s mostly thought of as representing deeper social values and ideal that are hard to get a handle on. No I won’t link Todd right now the guy has gone off the deep end regarding Ukraine, his stuff is worth reading but don’t only read him – not just because of Ukraine.