• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    I am skeptical that they knew it was Biden’s plan with a result like this, but can believe they support the reforms.

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      3 months ago

      like they love the affordable care act, but they absolutely hate ‘obamacare’.

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        3 months ago

        I hated “both” lol. I went from not being able to afford care, to being forced to pay for insurance I couldn’t afford and still not being able to afford care, only poorer. Fucking $6,500 deductible and $13,000 out of pocket max, on top of the premiums.

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          3 months ago

          Maybe you live in a Republican state that refused the full federal dollars buy-in from the ACA, then.

          When I was unemployed last year, I was on Medicaid. I had similar worries - what if I make just a bit too much money that I’m slightly above the poverty threshold? So I ran a couple of scenarios on the healthcare.gov site. When I checked it, yes not great deductible, but the premium cost was incredibly manageable to hypothetical me.

          That being said, healthcare and insurance in this country absolutely needs to be overhauled. A Medicare-for-All option would be a start to let government complete with insurance companies.

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        People loved the preexisting conditions ban, medicaid expansion and regulating what insurance companies had to cover. They hated the tax penalties, the insane bureaucracy, the dumb exchanges that didn’t work, and in general the fact that dealing with the kafkaesque nightmare of the medical industry didn’t get much better and in fact got worse for people getting bounced from their existing providers.

        Let’s be real, Obamacare was unpopular not because Obama was black or a democrat but because he tried to do neoliberal “incremental” reform and turned the whole thing into a omnishambles corporate lobbyist clownfucking horror fest.

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          3 months ago

          ‘obamacare’ isn’t even his plan. what we got was what congress compromised on; and then in the end, republicans didn’t even vote for it anyway.

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      3 months ago

      They don’t. I made this comment in another thread.

      I find this part pretty telling:

      …63%, supported enacting an 18-year term limit for Supreme Court justices – who enjoy lifetime appointments – with a bare 51% of Republicans in favor along with 61% of independents and a whopping 83% of Democrats.

      But then:

      Some 58% of Republicans considered Biden’s long-shot proposal to impose term limits and enact a binding code of conduct on the high court a “major threat to democracy,” compared with 26% of independents and just 10% of Democrats.

      So basically most Republicans are like “yeah we need term limits… Wait, Biden wants term limits? Fuck that!”

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        3 months ago

        How I long for the day when a Republican accidentally holds a compassionate, justice-loving, non-hypocritical, decent position on something.