I had a Youtube Subscription mainly for using Youtube Music since last year. I used to be on Newpipe before that. However, the mobile app always made be feel uneasy. From not being able to choose system wide video quality for all Youtube videos at once[ seriously, there is like ‘High’ or ‘Data Saver’ only and explicit options are available per videos only ] to Youtube nudging me to purchase/join a Youtuber’s membership channel really irked me [I just paid you, Youtube ; why are you constantly asking me to pay more for something I don’t want? Why can’t I disable those notifications ?]
I have some time remaining on my subscription but converted to Tubular [Newpipe fork with Sponsorblock] simply because it doesn’t treat it’s end users like trash. Even for YTM, I switched to Revanced version which offered endless customization. I could hide useless stuff like cast, share buttons to even functions in the Account tab. The granular control was so much that I was able to get a simplistic neat looking UI setup.
In the transition, I understand, I lose some of my playlists [under a throwaway Google account since I don’t wish to risk my main one getting banned] but I understand that the only true way anyone controls their music[or any form of data is by truly owning them and streaming services don’t allow that]. It might sound stupid, but I have been downloading music from Soulseek for some time and now just plan to transfer some of my favorites over to the SD card.
It was never a money problem. It was an experience problem. I paid money to Google and all I got was Shorts, Games and other stuff I didn’t wanted. I never got customization or fine grained controls. The open source community offers that. Sorry for the long rant.
I watch a stupid amount of YouTube so I pay for YouTube Premium. I wish that meant I could have premium features like disabling shorts, disabling those annoying themed sections that keep popping up (right now it’s the olympic games), a search function that actually searches for what I want instead of shoving more suggested videos in my face, and changing every “not now” button into “don’t ever ask again”.
Despite the fact that I’m a voracious consumer of YoutTube videos and a long-time paying customer, I have to accept that I am not the target audience. They want passive users who endlessly watch whatever gets put in front of them so that they never leave the app. If there was a respectful alternative that worked well with iOS and AppleTV I’d gladly pay for that instead.
I also pay for it and watch it on my android TV. And I completely agree with you. But for now it’s my main source of TV and I mainly follow channels I subscribe. I don’t listen to music on YT, i do follow some live music channels
Have a look at SmartTube. You’ll have to transfer the apk to your AndroidTV and sideload it.
Yeah I have paid for YouTube Red since it was YouTube Red.
I’m pretty sure they don’t want want me anymore cause they have made my whole experience worse and trying to get more and more money and attention out of me.
I really should stop paying too but they are literally making it so there is no alternative and I hate paying on patreon but watching on YouTube with ads