China has accused NATO of seeking security at the expense of others and told the alliance not to bring the same “chaos” to Asia.

China accused NATO on Thursday of seeking security at the expense of others and told the alliance not to bring the same “chaos” to Asia, a reflection of its determination to oppose strengthening ties between NATO members and Asian nations such as Japan, South Korea and the Philippines.

The statement by a Foreign Ministry spokesperson came a day after NATO labeled China a “decisive enabler” of Russia’s war against Ukraine.

“NATO hyping up China’s responsibility on the Ukraine issue is unreasonable and has sinister motives,” spokesperson Lin Jian said at a daily briefing. He maintained that China has a fair and objective stance on the Ukraine issue.

China has broken with the United States and its European allies over the war in Ukraine, refusing to condemn Russia’s invasion or even to refer to it as an act of aggression in deference to Moscow. Its trade with Russia has grown since the invasion, at least partially offsetting the impact of Western sanctions.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    101·
    5 months ago

    That’s talking about DJI drones.

    You can buy them on Amazon.

    That is not the same as China selling directly to Russia and I think you know that.

    Also, I explicitly want dual use stuff because that’s explicitly how they are being accused of aiding Russia.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        61·
        5 months ago

        Go back and re-read the first comment you replied to and then ask yourself if asking me that question now makes any sense.

        And, again, Ukraine buying DJI drones on the public market is not the same as China directly selling Russia parts to make or repair weapons, which, again, I think you know.

        • CabbageRelish@midwest.socialEnglish
          16·
          5 months ago

          It’s quite easy for people who know what they’re doing to repurpose processors and components in consumer devices? And, you can also buy almost whatever cpu/component you want on Amazon too if you know what you’re looking for?

          Otherwise, as I mentioned I don’t like it as a category because it leads to this silliness. At one point Israel was blocking all concrete imports to Gaza under dual use reasoning, and although I don’t like them one bit they kind of had a point. But, you also kinda need it if you want to build modern structures.

          I’d assume NATO’s largely talking about machining equipment, electronics, and drones though. But, I don’t think they actually clarified anything? And while Ukraine itself probably doesn’t have much military use for the first two as any military plant would probably get hit, with how prominently drones have featured in this war they definitely fall under dual use.

        • nekandro@lemmy.mlEnglish
          18·
          5 months ago

          What exactly do you think exports are? A DJI drone is manufactured in China. If it’s bought through Amazon or Alibaba and shipped to Ukraine, that’s classified as an export. The public market is how imports and exports happen.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
            71·
            5 months ago

            I see. You’re just going to pretend that China selling to a third party and that third party then selling to Ukraine is the same thing as China selling directly to Russia.