The Borg would want that technology so after that first cube is destroyed they’d be back with enough firepower to overwhelm the shields and get drones on board. Even if they lost a couple of hundred cubes it would likely be worthwhile.
The Borg have several trillions of drones many thousands to millions of vessels. They can go full Russia tactics with capturing the death star if needed.
If this is the first death star though, they’d just beam some drones aboard while it was busy destroying them.
There were small gaps in the shields of the first Death Star; the Empire believed that this was harmless since only small ships could wiggle through the gaps.
If a small ship can get through then a transporter beam is definitely getting through.
Yeah, the Borg hordes would overwhelm the Death Star. The last time this was posed was as a single Borg Cube vs. the Death Star, so I’m assuming that’s what OP was asking.
I don’t really see how a boarding party is going to help them much, though. Stormtroopers aren’t the most competent soldiers, but Borg aren’t going to be better protected from the plasma in their Blasters than the Cube is from the Death Star’s plasma and laser weapons. It’s possible they could assimilate someone with strategic knowledge of the station or find something useful in their computers, but they’re going to get wrecked before they can pull that off. The cube is also too big to get through the Death Star shields, so they can’t use the exhaust port trick to blow it up.
I don’t see how plasma weapons would do anything. The Borg are probably already adapted to be honest. The Romulans were rocking plasma torpedoes in the 23rd century, and there’s no idea of just sending a bunch of TOS era warbirds against the Borg. The only reason the primary weapon would work is the raw power it has being able to simply overload anything in front of it.
If the Borg personal shields aren’t already adapted to storm troopers weapons they’ll just blast through a few Borg, then they adapt their personal shields to compensate for the stormtrooper weapons.
After that it’s open season on turning the whole crew into drones and subverting the computer systems.
The only thing that might be able to stop them if there was a force wielder on the death star, and they realised what was going on before even they’d be overwhelmed by the sheer number of assimilated crew.
Well, again, their sheild adapting technology very specifically works on phaser and torpedo warheads, but haven’t shown any adaptability to other weapons, and the entry on Memory Alpha entry seems to make this explicit. That doesn’t mean that they don’t stop other weapons, just that they only work like normal shields against other weapons. So, 23rd century warbirds probably wouldn’t be very effective against the Borg, since they’re old, outdated, and probably underpowered tech, but a Galaxy Class Starship with plasma weapons as powerful as normal phasers would probably do well.
So, if the sheilds don’t nullify the Death Star’s weapons, this match up would basically be the same as any large Star Trek ship vs. the Death Star. And since the Death Star is so massive, pretty much any ship is gonna get wrecked. I’m sure the Borg would do fine against a Star Wars ship of roughly comparable size, but the Death Star is almost 100 times larger.
Not sure where you got in memory alpha that they can only adapt to phasers, this is what memory alpha has to say.
The Borg were usually exceedingly quick to adapt; their shields would often nullify nearly any energy weapon, and their weapons could usually penetrate nearly any shield or defense, within minutes
Oh, you’re right, it’s the Borg Wiki, it just looks the same because they both run on Fandom. Still, there’s no reason to think that’s no longer cannon just because Destiny is no longer cannon. We never see borg weapons adapting to anything other than phasers and photon torpedos, and there’s lots of circumstantial evidence that they can’t adapt to other weapon types.
There’s also circumstantial evidence that they can adapt to other weapon types. Klingons and Romulans both ice disrupters and they’re are drones of those species. But probably even more telling, star fleet never whacked plasma cannons on their new anti Borg ships, when it was a well established technology. On personal shields I’ll grant you that they seemed to struggle (or maybe it just wasn’t used enough) to adapt to holomatter based projectiles.
For the ships themselves I grant you the raw power and tonnage will tell. But for a Borg boarding party I see no reason for storm troopers to fare any better than others.
The Borg would want that technology so after that first cube is destroyed they’d be back with enough firepower to overwhelm the shields and get drones on board. Even if they lost a couple of hundred cubes it would likely be worthwhile.
The Borg have several trillions of drones many thousands to millions of vessels. They can go full Russia tactics with capturing the death star if needed.
If this is the first death star though, they’d just beam some drones aboard while it was busy destroying them.
If a small ship can get through then a transporter beam is definitely getting through.
Yeah, the Borg hordes would overwhelm the Death Star. The last time this was posed was as a single Borg Cube vs. the Death Star, so I’m assuming that’s what OP was asking.
I don’t really see how a boarding party is going to help them much, though. Stormtroopers aren’t the most competent soldiers, but Borg aren’t going to be better protected from the plasma in their Blasters than the Cube is from the Death Star’s plasma and laser weapons. It’s possible they could assimilate someone with strategic knowledge of the station or find something useful in their computers, but they’re going to get wrecked before they can pull that off. The cube is also too big to get through the Death Star shields, so they can’t use the exhaust port trick to blow it up.
I don’t see how plasma weapons would do anything. The Borg are probably already adapted to be honest. The Romulans were rocking plasma torpedoes in the 23rd century, and there’s no idea of just sending a bunch of TOS era warbirds against the Borg. The only reason the primary weapon would work is the raw power it has being able to simply overload anything in front of it.
If the Borg personal shields aren’t already adapted to storm troopers weapons they’ll just blast through a few Borg, then they adapt their personal shields to compensate for the stormtrooper weapons.
After that it’s open season on turning the whole crew into drones and subverting the computer systems.
The only thing that might be able to stop them if there was a force wielder on the death star, and they realised what was going on before even they’d be overwhelmed by the sheer number of assimilated crew.
Well, again, their sheild adapting technology very specifically works on phaser and torpedo warheads, but haven’t shown any adaptability to other weapons, and the entry on Memory Alpha entry seems to make this explicit. That doesn’t mean that they don’t stop other weapons, just that they only work like normal shields against other weapons. So, 23rd century warbirds probably wouldn’t be very effective against the Borg, since they’re old, outdated, and probably underpowered tech, but a Galaxy Class Starship with plasma weapons as powerful as normal phasers would probably do well.
So, if the sheilds don’t nullify the Death Star’s weapons, this match up would basically be the same as any large Star Trek ship vs. the Death Star. And since the Death Star is so massive, pretty much any ship is gonna get wrecked. I’m sure the Borg would do fine against a Star Wars ship of roughly comparable size, but the Death Star is almost 100 times larger.
Not sure where you got in memory alpha that they can only adapt to phasers, this is what memory alpha has to say.
Dude, it was literally the first thing I linked to, and I even quoted the most relevant portions of the entry.
Is that memory beta or something? It’s only reference is the destiny novels.
Oh, you’re right, it’s the Borg Wiki, it just looks the same because they both run on Fandom. Still, there’s no reason to think that’s no longer cannon just because Destiny is no longer cannon. We never see borg weapons adapting to anything other than phasers and photon torpedos, and there’s lots of circumstantial evidence that they can’t adapt to other weapon types.
There’s also circumstantial evidence that they can adapt to other weapon types. Klingons and Romulans both ice disrupters and they’re are drones of those species. But probably even more telling, star fleet never whacked plasma cannons on their new anti Borg ships, when it was a well established technology. On personal shields I’ll grant you that they seemed to struggle (or maybe it just wasn’t used enough) to adapt to holomatter based projectiles.
For the ships themselves I grant you the raw power and tonnage will tell. But for a Borg boarding party I see no reason for storm troopers to fare any better than others.