• redisdead@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    30
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Vast majority of people manage to not become felons by not committing felonies

    Out of lm the people who are convicted felons, I don’t think I’m wrong thinking those who are wrongly convicted are an insignificant minority

    Sucks to be them, but I won’t try my luck on the absolute minimal off chance they weren’t a criminal.

    If you don’t want to deal with the baggage that comes with being a felon, don’t commit felonies. It’s not hard, plenty of people manage to do it.

    I filter potential tenants and it’s served me well. I never had to do huge repairs or anything on any of my rentals.

    Most of my idealistic buddies who believe they operate a charity can’t say the same.

    • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      4 months ago

      Damn, reading this comment chain I kept thinking you couldn’t be worse and each response you amaze me. You’re an asshole and imo you’re likely doing more harm to society than felons who make it out and just want to find work and shelter. Have some empathy

      • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        They are a landlord, why would you expect them to be anything but this?

        That is, if this person isn’t just making that up, and isn’t just some edgy loser on the internet.

        • Maalus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          4 months ago

          They are a felon, why would you expect them to be anything but rapists, murderers or pedophiles? You don’t want to assume anything about a felon, but assumptions about landlords are somehow fine

          • cybersin@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            You and the landlord have just been found guilty by a jury of your peers of being absolute jackasses, far beyond a reasonable doubt.

            • Maalus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              4 months ago

              For not wanting to house a murderer, rapist or a pedophile. Cool, I’ll be a jackass, at least I’m not advocating for murderers.

              • cybersin@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                So you believe people are incapable of rehabilitation?

                OK, so by your logic, all prison sentences should be for life. They can’t be fixed, so we’ll just have to keep them locked up then, right? Gosh, these prisons sure are starting to fill up… maybe we should give everyone the death penalty instead? They’re going to die in prison anyways…

                I guess lawyers are bad too because they also advocate for murderers. Lock them up as well!

                Your perspective is idiotic.

                • Maalus@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Yeah because prisons are known to be so good at “rehabilitation” of violent criminals.

                • redisdead@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  I don’t believe anyone who’s been convicted of a felony can truly rehabilitate their way into society considering the kind of crimes you need to do to become a felon.

                  Murder, rape, pedophilia, animal abuse, fraud, kidnapping, illegal drug trade, human trafficking, DUI, etc., are all kinds of acts that requires the person to have a truly defective mind to begin with.

              • redisdead@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                4 months ago

                I’m just having a laugh out of these people. They have no skin in the game and think their opinion matter.

          • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            4 months ago

            You aren’t even insightful enough to know when your logic is being turned against you as a rhetorical device.

            • Maalus@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              4 months ago

              Except there is no logic turning here. And you wouldn’t rent out a flat to a murderer either.

              • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                Landlording is detrimental to an affordable housing market, this has historically played a major role in many periods of poverty and wealth disparity issues. This, in turn, plays a party in the increase of crime.

                So if committing a felony is bad, thus I should use that as a filter for consideration of a person then I should also do the same to someone who’s choices play a major role in the decrease of QoL for people that has, historically, played a significant role in the increase in crime. I mean, the felon could be wrongly charged, they could have got caught up in something that really didn’t hurt anyone and it has been a long time since, and they are not that person anymore. However, by your logic, it is best to just assume they could be a dangerous felon and just not take that chance. Thus, you could be a small time landlord, who offers a bunch of useful services to those who rent from them, and works hard at keeping their QoL up, or a landlord that rents to own, making little, to no, profit off the tenets. However you could be a slum lord, a landlord participating using price fixing algorithm software services, working as a property investor for some company like black rock, one who regularly increases their rent to be at, or above, the local rent, inflating housing costs, etc. So it’s just not worth my time to risk figuring that out, I should just avoid you because your chosen business is, in the large picture, detrimental to QoL, and most rental properties are owned by shady people, and corporations, that actively make life worse for society beyond the passive stress the business puts on people.

                By your own logic I should just assume you are a leech upon society, and avoid interacting you, because most landlording is terrible to society at large.

                • AeonFelis@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  What good will it do for you to avoid contact with landlords? If you need to rent, you have to rent from a landlord. If you can afford to own your own house, you’d prefer to do that to begin with.

                  • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    4 months ago

                    In my life, when I have found out people make money off renting housing, I scrutinize it enough to see if they fall into one of the categories I previously mentioned, If not, I stopped associating with them. I used to underwrite private loans, including mortgages, and worked in that world. They are designed to push people, at large, into renting, as most financial institutions are heavily invested where renting benefits them. This makes landlords even worse. When I have been forced to rent, I treated them like I was being forced to do business with a crook. Treating them with this assumption has proven to behoove me in numerous occasions. I have never had to rent from someone who didn’t do something shady, if not outright felonious.

                    Landlording is bad for the working people, drags society at large, and benefits a coercive state of affairs that only benefits huge, shady, investment firms/banks. So, when the poster replied, and said they were a landlord, It just exposed one crook calling out another. Sure, they could be an ethical landlord, but that is unlikely. So it is best to just assume they will fuck you over, just like they look at felons.

                • Maalus@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Yeah I’m not reading that vomit of words you typed up. You wouldn’t trust a felon with your life savings. If you would, you are a moron.

      • redisdead@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        16
        ·
        4 months ago

        Sorry, I’m not willing to house rapists, murderers and pedophiles. Feel free to invest a significant portion of your time and money to do so if you wish to. Tell me how it goes for you.

        Actually don’t, I’ve seen what happens when people do.

      • redisdead@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        12
        ·
        4 months ago

        Ah yes, because one guy out of a million might not deserve it, I should seek to house rapists, murderers and pedophiles.

        Y’all have a strange sense of priorities.

        Look, don’t be a felon. It’s not hard. Plenty of people are not.