Kbin/Mbin (and possibly others?) definitely have the edge here since those platforms make votes public (only admins can see them on Lemmy). So, if you want to confirm what I’m saying here, go view some of these posts from Kbin/Mbin.
Every time one of the “usual suspects” says stuff like this in the comments, there will later be posts detailing how Biden is doing (or at least earnestly trying to do) exactly the things they’re saying he needs to be doing (oR ElSe i WiLl noT voTE anD NEithER ShoULD yoU!!!11!!). 100% of the time, those posts are downvoted by these same “usual suspect” accounts.
What gives? They have very strong opinions about how he should run his administration, so you’d think they’d appreciate him doing what they’ve been so helpfully suggesting. Unless…it was never about the issues at all.
That thin veneer of concern they’re hiding behind is not as thick as they think it is and is quite easy to see through. Now you know where to look.
Edit: Please don’t name and shame any specific users. That may violate the community or LW rules. We all know who most of the “usual suspects” are.
If all we can expect is genocide, we have to consider other interests. I don’t think Biden wants dead Palestinians, he just isn’t willing to toss Israel out in the cold and that is better than cheerleading the bombs.
Then we have failed. We shouldn’t accept “little a nazi, as a treat”.
I would say you exaggerate, and you should not vote and let the adults decide your government for you.
Me saying that we shouldn’t accept genocide is not exaggeration. What happened to “never again”? You being fine with genocide doesn’t make you an adult, in fact it’s quite the opposite since you submit to authority like a cowardly child.
Withholding your vote from Biden is peak virtue signalling. It does nothing for Palestinians, they are even more screwed with Trump than they are now. Trump already screwed them over moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and becoming the only nation to recognize Jerusalem as the Israeli Capital.
Protest, boycott, form a union or convince yours to strike, by all means, electoral politics is not the only or the most important political arena.
But complaining about Biden online to people that already don’t like him is worse than useless.
Nobody said anything about withholding your vote. I’m sick and tired of every criticism of genocide going back to “these are your two choices so suck it up”. We all know how this stupid election system works, all you’re doing is taking heat off people who support genocide.
I respectfully disagree.
This both sides narrative is FUD, and it’s dangerous for Americans, Ukrainians, even Palestinians.
You’re not going to solve the problem by ignoring the underlying cause.