“Right-wing billionaires hoped an obscure legal case would blow up the tax code to avoid paying what they owe, but this effort failed,” said the Democratic senator after the **Moore v. United States decision.

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    Well let’s see here…

    She’s spent the majority of her time in the Senate championing holding financial institutions accountable, up to and including asserting that particularly shady bankers should be criminally investigated.

    She made the CFPB happen.

    She’s one of several senators who have attempted to reintroduce a version of the Glass-Steagall act to separate FDIC banks from investment banks and hedge funds (and to shrink them so they can’t use government bailouts from the FDIC when they inevitably try to screw you).

    Yeah man she ain’t perfect. Pretty sure she’s got this shit, though.

    I’d certainly trust a Senator that’s actually done something consistently progressive in US politics over some random commenter on Lemmy who’s likely done nothing beyond whining online to force an absurd level of purity on politicians who can’t really help being fallible and human sometimes.

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      Every Democrat can claim they “attempted” some progressive legislation, neoliberals make their entire career around attempting (and then failing) to institute popular progressive legislation. That’s the whole concept of having a rotating villain like Manchin or Sinema, you pick just enough senators or house members to stand in the way of the progressive agenda and then everyone else gets to vote for progressive legislation knowing that there’s no chance it will pass. They did it even when they have a super majority.

      I don’t trust Warren because she has not once but twice kneecapped Sanders during his presidential run. That’s when her true colors show, when the chips are down and she falls inline with the rest of the DNC establishment.

      There was no reason for her to not back the progressive candidate during a primary when it was only Biden and Sanders left. Instead she chose to try to smear Sanders by perpetuating a lie about him telling her that “a woman can’t win”, then back-peddled as it came out that was a total mischaracterization of what they talked about. It’s the same bullshit tactic neoliberals used during his first campaign with the “bernie bros” narrative despite him having a majority of his supporters as women.

      I mistrust fake progressives even more than I mistrust the far-right, at least the far-right tells you exactly what they really believe. A fake progressive undermines our ability to push the party towards progressive goals.

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        She didn’t just attempt things. She accomplished things. You would not have a CFPB without her. I don’t know any politician, progressive or otherwise, that always wins.

        You don’t trust her because she wanted to win a presidential primary, didn’t, and had a shitty response to it? Jesus man, everyone’s a fake progressive by your standard.

        You know Bernie endorsed Biden too, right? He wasn’t going to win. He never had a chance at winning with the way the DNC works. Yeah, it’d be nice if that wasn’t true, but unfortunately it is.

        I’d recommend you dial back the purity testing a bit or you’ll end up staying home.

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          You don’t trust her because she wanted to win a presidential primary, didn’t, and had a shitty response to it?

          No, that’s not what I said or what happened.

          She lied to play on a damaging trope made up by conservatives and right-wing media and then, even when she had lost, endorsed a far right zionist (you know, the guy whos sending our tax dollars to fund a genocide at this very moment) rather than Sanders when those were the only two options. I don’t care if she did it because she was a sore loser, that makes it worse, not better.

          Elizabeth Warren has accomplished alot for sure, sabotaging progressives during both election cycles is one of her biggest and most wide-reaching accomplishments. Name checking a piece of legislation that was passed 20 years ago before she was even an elected official isn’t exactly the great testament to her record.

          I don’t trust Warren because she’s been corrupted. I don’t care if a person used to give soup to orphans, that doesn’t erase their willingness to later support someone who murders orphans. A senator doing the basics of the job they were elected to do does not give them license or leeway to sabotage the progressive agenda, once someone does that the trust is destroyed and can’t be rebuilt with any amount of speeches and rhetoric.

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            You have no idea what happened. No one who isn’t Sanders or Warren knows what was said in that meeting, and I frankly doubt either of them remembers it either. There’s a reason eye-witness testimony is some of the most inaccurate evidence out there regardless of how sure you feel about it.

            There is no proof in one person saying something happened and another saying it didn’t. You have no evidence that she lied about anything. Frankly it’s astounding how sure you feel about things no one has any evidence for, least of all you.

            The only thing you seem to have is a completely warped view of her legislative history, but I don’t think I can get you to see reality. Good luck out there.

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              And I suppose there’s nothing I can do to make you understand that she was the lynch pin in ensuring progressives lost the 2020 primary using the same neoliberal playbook they implement every primary. Good luck out there.