An unprecedented nearly 5,000 migrants have died at sea in the first five months of 2024 trying to reach the Spanish Canary Islands, according to a report released by migration rights group Walking Borders on Wednesday.

Between Jan. 1 and May 31, 4,808 people died on the Atlantic voyage to the Canaries after departing from Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal and Gambia, making it the deadliest route between Africa and Spain, with 95% of migrant deaths, according to the group.

Arrivals to the archipelago in that period soared five times to over 16,500 from a year ago, Interior Ministry data showed.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    6 months ago

    Thank you for actually providing something approaching evidence for your claims. Of course, your claims discount the fact that those families themselves will die if that money isn’t earned, so it’s still a life-or-death situation, but at least you backed up your claim rather than just stated it as if it were true.

    I have no idea why you think destroying a passport has any relevance to anything though. You’ve brought it up more than once as if it has to do with economic migration.

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      6 months ago

      Sorry could you provide evidence that people are coming over for life or death situations please? Do you not hold yourself to the same standard as others? Your comments look like misinformation from my side.

      Economic migrants aren’t refugees. If you burn your passport you can claim to be a refugee. There was reports of people flying from Pakistan to north Africa destroying their passports and travelling to Europe illegally for monetary reasons, not because of life and death.

      And no I’m not going to go find that for you because I have already proven my word and I’m waiting for you to do the same. If this comment and this comment alone needs proving or it will get labeled as misinformation then I’m not going to waste my time on it. If you don’t trust and and don’t want to check me, delete it.

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        6 months ago

        I literally gave you evidence in my first response with the DW article, which you apparently didn’t read.

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          6 months ago

          No you didn’t.

          I did read it. That is talking about refugees looking at asylum. You understand the difference right?

          Asylum seekers are covered under international law. That is about legal movements.

          We aren’t talking about that we are talking about people illegally crossing borders. It seems like you are trying to make out one thing is something it isn’t. It seems to me you are trying to make out illegal migrants are refugees. That seems a lot like misinformation to me and you need to provide sources for your claims.

          That’s why I’m asking for a source. Are you saying all illegal migrants are refugees even though I have showed evidence of them just doing it for money?

          You’re misleading people.

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            6 months ago

            You do know that we have no idea whether or not someone is seeking asylum when they’re dead, right?

            Are you saying all illegal migrants are refugees even though I have showed evidence of them just doing it for money?

            No, I’m saying you have no idea what reason they’re coming over for in general, you’re basing your claim on TV and YouTube videos. And I’m saying they wouldn’t risk their lives if they weren’t desperate.

            The funny thing is, you don’t realize that if someone is doing something for money which might kill them, they really need that money. It’s a life or death situation, if not for them then for their families.

            Now, are you ever going to explain the significance of burning a passport?

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              5 months ago

              So all the claims you make are unfounded and not backed up by any evidence or source and go contrary to what I said.

              Your only explanation is a feeling you have.

              Face it if I did that you would have deleted all my comments. I based my comments and sources on reporters from some of the most well regarded news sites. One rule for you, one rule for everyone else. I did everything you asked of me and you done nothing, you’re moving the goalposts for yourself and you won’t do anything to back up your claims. You just want to argue but won’t admit I provided everything to back up my claims are yours are unfounded.

              Fuck man I did. If you have a country that does not have refugees you can burn your passport and lie and say you are from a different a country to gain refugee status. Legally you refugee but actually they are just economic migrants abusing the system and breaking the law.

              This conversation is over until you provide something that’s more than just your feels.

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                5 months ago

                Sorry, I am not going to continue this discussion if you insinuate that is the kind of moderator I am.

                I also highly encourage you to report me to lemmy.world admins if you think I would delete all of your comments for any reason that didn’t violate community rules, because that would be beyond the pale of any moderator.

                After all, I’m sure you have some basis for making such an accusation, right?

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                  5 months ago

                  Answer my repeated questions for sources (like you asked of me) or this discussion is over.

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                    5 months ago

                    “After all, I’m sure you have some basis for making such an accusation, right?”

                    I guess the answer to this question is that no, you just made it up, presumably for sympathy.