What do you call separating a mother from her baby and killing him because he’s born male in the dairy industry? What do you call pigs that have no space and accidentally crush their piglets while hearing their screams because their legs cannot stand anymore? What do you call being surrounded by your excrement 24/7 and the only sunlight you get is on the way to the slaughter house? Stop defending abusers.
They’re separeted from their mothers and not allowed to feed. The mothers cry out wiyh so much agony. The calves are confined and given powdered milk in water, often not enough.
in torture inflicting pain or distress is the point. if all of these procedures could be done without the pain or distress, they would be. the pain or distress is incidental. it’s not torture. qed
intention is certainly an important facet of torture. if a dentist pulls a tooth it’s not the same as a sadist pulling a tooth, even if anesthesia isn’t available. both would cause the same pain, but the dentists is incidental.
you don’t know that. it’s patronizing to presume you know others’ needs.
WFPB is the cheapest diet in the world, no one needs animal products to survive.
for some people, that might be true. for others, no. regardless, survival is not all that people need.
What do people need from animal products? Especially so strong of a need that it requires the cycle of breeding and torture I’ve already discussed?
i don’t presume to tell others what they need. i’m only saying you dont know any more than i what anyone needs.
Some needs are quite aparent, and animal products is not a need.
for some people this might be true. for others, no.
Show me one human who needs animal products. I’ve yet to find one out of the tens of thousands I’ve spoken to throughout activism
i think most people would say they need meat, dairy, eggs, or seafood.
no one is torturing animals.
What do you call separating a mother from her baby and killing him because he’s born male in the dairy industry? What do you call pigs that have no space and accidentally crush their piglets while hearing their screams because their legs cannot stand anymore? What do you call being surrounded by your excrement 24/7 and the only sunlight you get is on the way to the slaughter house? Stop defending abusers.
the vast majority of calves are brought to full weight before slaughter, but this isn’t torture either.
Separation of love is torture. It’s agonogizing pain. Imagine being sexually assaulted and then giving birth and someone steals your child from you
cows aren’t sexually assaulted, and you seem to be assuming that they can experience love.
They’re separeted from their mothers and not allowed to feed. The mothers cry out wiyh so much agony. The calves are confined and given powdered milk in water, often not enough.
some cows are also terrible mothers. keeping the calves safely out of kicking distance and feeding them nutritionally adequate diets isn’t torture.
in torture inflicting pain or distress is the point. if all of these procedures could be done without the pain or distress, they would be. the pain or distress is incidental. it’s not torture. qed
Intention doesn’t define torture. Many people aren’t sadists, but they like money more than they care about morals. Or taste from the consumers.
intention is certainly an important facet of torture. if a dentist pulls a tooth it’s not the same as a sadist pulling a tooth, even if anesthesia isn’t available. both would cause the same pain, but the dentists is incidental.