• Kayday@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    That’s like saying someone can’t be a homosexual in ancient Rome because the word didn’t exist yet.

    Like, in an extremely pedantic way you could say that, but it doesn’t reflect what was actually happening.

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      8 months ago

      🫤 I didn’t say anybody “can’t be” anything at all.
      I said it was a funny old joke. Then I wisecracked incels are ugly people with shitty personalities. If anything, that insensitivity should be what any reply is about.
      Are…are you in the same conversation as me?

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        8 months ago

        You didn’t say, “can’t be”, thats why I said it’s like you said that.

        We didnt call it, “incel” 100 years ago when someone acted like an incel. If someone was making jokes and promoting a mindset at the time that would now be labeled “incel”, then we can retroactively say the ideology they promoted fits our current label.

        I am in the same conversation, and I hear what you’re saying. I don’t think you sincerely understood what I was saying the first time.

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          8 months ago

          Yeah I don’t think Rodney Dangerfield, we’re he alive today, would accept the “incel” brand so easily. His comedy and attitude are different. That’s why it doesn’t deserve an “incel bullshit” comment. It’s simply a funny self-depricating type joke…
          But what do I know… maybe it wasn’t even Rodney Dangerfield who came up with the joke.

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            8 months ago

            Yeah that’s very fair. I wouldn’t go so far as to call someone an incel just because they said one thing that an incel may also say. Were he alive today I imagine he’d find incels good material for jokes.