• Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I really don’t get your argument…how is me living a theorical “artificial” clean life relevant ? (Which you’re only assuming btw)

    It’s like arguing that getting kicked in the balls is fine because “you probably just live in an artificially painless life, with painkillers and modern medicine”.

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      2 months ago

      huh it’s not an argument it’s just my opinion. Dogs mouths are super dirty, saliva is a bit gross. If you are used to just getting dirty and clean all the time another way of getting dirty doesn’t seem that bothersome.

      Like most people are grossed out by being vomited on, after you care for babies for a while or work security at a messy bar or whatever you stop being that grossed out because it happens hundreds of times. Work at a vet or on an animal farm and piss and shit getting on you stops being so nasty.

      It’s not a moral judgement, just that if a pet licking you seems really gross you probably aren’t used to getting stuff on your face that you just go wipe/wash off.

      Also yeah, pain seems worse because we’re not used to experiencing it, although pain is a bit special because our brains make us forget what it feels like so it’s always novel. You know how some people can just get hurt a lot and deal with it? they’re not superhuman, they just live lives with much more pain in them.

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        2 months ago

        You can have opinions with arguments. That’s not mutually exclusive.

        “I think [opinion] because [argument]”

        In this case your opinion was just implied by your argument.

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            2 months ago

            That’s where we can agree on.

            Hence the “irrationally grossed out” part. It’s not a controlled thing, I’m not choosing to feel grossed out, I just do. So you can understand that your reply was akin to telling an arachophobe: “You’re probably a city dweller that’s never been to the countryside, we have them everywhere there”. It comes off as arrogant and know-it-all.

            I have nothing personal against you though.

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              2 months ago

              Oh psh, everybodies house is full of spiders and other friendlies. Also you can treat phobias unless they’re extremely severe.

              So yes, an arachnaphobe probably hasn’t worked with spiders :p

              I’m significantly afraid of heights, like woozy standing on a chair fear, hasn’t stopped me doing maintenance on a roof or riding all the horrifying giant drop rides/cross canyon flying foxes etc I come across. Fear doesn’t stop you doing stuff, you just have to do it scared.

              Sorry, i’m drunk there was a point in there though, that exposure makes it possible to do stuff like work on the roof. And if I was way a lineswoman I would probably no more be afraid of heights by necessity. Humans adapt, only terminally online weirdos think you’re stuck in the condition you’re currently in.

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                2 months ago

                And you know this is not a severe case because…?

                Note: I’m not disagreeing with you on a fundamental level, just in the form of the argument and assumptions required for it to work.