• casey is remote@noauthority.social
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      7 months ago

      @wintermute_oregon Key facts here check out, thanks!

      I still agree that the changes were needed at the time though, the lower class at the time was essentially a slave class due to low levels of pay. People were being paid so little that young children were forced to work in factories in order for households to make ends meet.

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        7 months ago

        The left loves to talk about Denmark and employees making 25 an hour. They then ignore there is no minimum wage law in Denmark.

        That is what changed my views.

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          7 months ago

          @wintermute_oregon @realcaseyrollins a lot of those people are just useful idiots. they’re mad about whatever they’ve been primed to riot about. they don’t actually have a basic understanding of how food arrives at stores or the implications of wages on the cost of their coffee. it’s really sad.

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              7 months ago

              @teratology @wintermute_oregon @realcaseyrollins depends where in europe and what you are doing.

              importing a Deluge from new zealand had an import duty of 0$ because the USA doesn’t really charge other colonials import tax. the same device to a German musician held something like a 300$ overhead to the government.

              in my recent reading about cinema cameras, someone was charged around 170$USD to have their camera sent back to black magic for servicing. the brits and euros it was more like 400$.

              there are a lot of import/export fees and license buggery that just doesn’t exist in the USA.

              but my original point was you just have these wealthy or scholarship/loan people that want cheap coffee at school but then someone tells them to be mad about what the poors make, and i don’t think it actually occurs to them that paying the barista 20$ an hour means the cost of their coffee is going to go up.

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                7 months ago

                don’t think it actually occurs to them that paying the barista 20$ an hour means the cost of their coffee is going to go up

                Agreed. As you can see here when person thought the franchisee should just take less profit when it’s unprofitable. He seemed to think the franchisee was making 2000x the employee when it’s close to 4-5x but also carries all the liability.

                Dining in general is low margin. Wages are a large part of that cost. I’m not against raising wages but people need to realize cost will go up, jobs will be lost and you’ll get less service.