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    lol you confused executives with franchise owners, that makes your argument irrelevant.

    If the franchise owners are having difficulty paying their workers either they’re not running their business effectively, or the requirements from corporate are hampering their ability to pay, or the business model is unsustainable.

    Your practice of blaming the government for forcing owners of these places to pay a living wage is ridiculously out of touch. If they were already making a living wage then the law wouldn’t be required.

    But I don’t expect anything different from someone in the top 5%. There’s no way you can understand that struggle.

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      lol you confused executives with franchise owners, that makes your argument irrelevant.

      The article is talking about franchise owners. So why are you going on about some mythical executive is beyond me.

      Stop saying living wage since you don’t understand the word. It doesn’t mean what you think.

      I wasn’t always well to do. So I do understand the struggle. Why id rather have a job at 16 an hour rather then zero.

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        The article is talking about franchise owners.

        ……how do you think corporate makes its money if not for the franchises? You yourself even mentioned the investment required by the corporation to open a franchise. That goes to the expenses of the physical stores and training staff but ALSO goes to the corporation for licensing fees. They also set requirements that franchise owners have to pay to meet.

        So why are you going on about some mythical executive is beyond me.

        They run the company, it’s important to scrutinize their actions.

        You’re bad at this.

        A living wage = wage high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

        If you can’t even pay rent on a minimum wage job (let alone food or other expenses) then you’re not making a living wage.

        What do YOU think it means Mr. 5%?

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          I love this narritave that people working in fast food for low wages are joyfully living their best life making big macs and singing gospel songs in 4 part harmony and on their day off they swing by the community food bank and everything is great - untill the evil Liberal McSocialist takes their job away with an evil laugh Mwahahaha! and the poor franchise owner loses everything he has to wear a barrel instead of clothes and smoke Honduran cigars instead of Dominican Oh such folly! Such Tribulation! Alas Babylon!

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            This entire thread is just that guy demonstrating over and over how much he doesn’t understand the suffering of those below him on the economic scale and it’s SO OBVIOUS

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            Helps if you had read the articles where the woman says she was happy with her job and pay. She’s not upset because she doesn’t have a job or pay. She won’t be able to pay her bills. I get you feel self important to tell the plebes they don’t need jobs since but I can empathize with their plight.

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              I missed that one. Did you post a link to it? I don’t see any other links in this thread. I admire your concern for the people who lost their jobs and I share that concern. You should never doubt that the plight of the proletariat is a fundamental concern at the heart of the revolutionary’s critique of capitalist exploitation.

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                https://www.franchiseherald.com/articles/77514/20240415/fosters-freeze-closes-locations-statewide-citing-new-wage-laws-contributing.htm

                Here is another article on it

                Navarro expressed that she and her former colleagues preferred to keep their old wages instead of losing their jobs altogether. “From what I’ve heard from my employees, we all would have chosen to stay at our previous wage because now we’re unemployed,” she told Fox Business.

                “Small businesses can’t handle a more than 120% increase in the minimum wage over the last decade. We’re all poorer than we were ten years ago, which shows that raising the minimum wage isn’t helping,” he commented to the media.

                The issue is that wages should have been increased more gradually over time and not rapidly when inflation was the highest and right after a pandemic. That is just dumb. People will only pay so much for fast food and that price is already exceeded.

                https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/mcdonalds-25-deal-viral-users-blame-californias-minimum-wage-increase-new-normal

                Yet the left claims they want to be more like Denmark but then balk when they find out Denmark doesn’t have a minimum wage.

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                  I see. So Navarro the assistant general manager, who was probably getting an above minimum wage, was cooperating in the exploitation of whoever was working for $4 an hour. No one can support themselves on $4 an hour in California, so it was likely teenagers or students who probably won’t be cast into the street or go hungry at the loss of such a low wage job.

                  I agree wages should have been raised gradually over time. There was very strong and well organized opposition to such an idea, mainly among republicans but also democrat collaborators.

                  Another difference between the USA and Denmark: trade unions. Unfortunately for US workers, there has been a long history of union busting in America. Coupled with deliberately weak labor laws, union busting goes on.

                  To act like a wage increase is some kind of curse against fast food employees is to ignore the long history of anti-worker legislation and practices in this country, which is again, either foolish or deceitful.

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          owners. ……how do you think corporate makes its money if not for the franchises

          How to say you don’t understand a franchise without actually saying it. Corporate has zero to do with this.

          A living wage = wage high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

          They had that. So now you can stop babbling about a living wage.

          f you can’t even pay rent on a minimum wage job (let alone food or other expenses) then you’re not making a living wage

          They were paying all their expenses. Can you cite where a laid off employee says otherwise? Only a liberal would think 0 is better than making a livable wage which they were doing

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            You’re seriously going to die on the “corporate has nothing to do with the costs they impose on the franchisee” hill?

            Under $20/hour, ESPECIALLY in a state with as high of a COL as California is NOT a living wage. Try it for a month. You wouldn’t even be able to cover the average rent. You’re just proving even harder how out of touch you are as a 5%-er.