• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      You don’t get why we shouldn’t be trading with China And instead should ge enabling our own EV manufactures ?

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        7 months ago

        So you’re pretending I’m making arguments I’m not because my comment makes you uncomfortable?

        Have at it, I’m sure you’ll come out on top by arguing with yourself.

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          7 months ago

          Your comments don’t make me uncomfortable. You just don’t seem to grasp why trading with China is bad.

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            7 months ago

            You have no basis for that accusation, you’re playing make-believe.

            It’s obviously difficult for you to engage in an honest discussion, though, so I can see why you make things up.

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                7 months ago

                This is specifically about independently tested high-scoring automobiles to European and Australian markets, not products released by American companies from untrustworthy manufacturers to Americans.

                Your list has American companies choosing to sell dangerous and unregulated products to Americans until enough legal violations pile up, very different from China manufacturing and selling regulated and independently tested EVs to non-US markets.

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                  7 months ago

                  Don’t get me wrong, this is just to show a history and why people may not trust Chinese products, EVs are a great stepping stone to our next less environmentally damaging inventions. IF Chinese EV makers meet safety etc regulations then they will start to repair their reputation, if they also stop their less honest companies from exporting crap that will hurt consumers regardless of who pays them.

                  Was just showing why there is distrust. Hopefully they follow regulations and force, through quality products, other car makers to make smaller, better, and more economical vehicles.

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                    7 months ago

                    I totally get why people mistrust Chinese manufacturers, but their prejudice has to be within context of at least the comments they are responding to.

                    I’m specifically talking about independently tested high-scoring Chinese EVs in Europe and Australia being so inexpensive that national subsidies are irrelevant, and in receiving arguments that undemocratic countries don’t make good products or that Mattel ships unsafe products to Americans.

                    I understand the mistrust, but that mistrust has nothing to do with the post or my comments, so I’m corralling less relevant tangents back into the sphere of material relevance.

            • Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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              7 months ago

              You asked why not when the answer is self evident. Have a good night.

              • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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                7 months ago

                You answering your own make-believe comments is as self-evident as you avoiding my question.