• exocrinous@startrek.website
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    8 months ago

    It is reasonable, and polite, to assume a person knows their own mind better than any external person, and if prompted, has right of interpretation to their own beliefs, knowledge and convictions.

    No, I disagree. I agree with you that we have the right to interpret our own intentions freely, because intentions cannot reliably be externally sensed. But let me give an example as to our beliefs and biases.

    Suppose I’m a scientist conducting trials on a new drug. I gather a group of volunteer test subjects, and begin trials to compare the drug to a placebo. However, after they take the drug (and placebo), some of the test subjects come to me and say “You don’t have to test me, doc. I’m immune to placebos. I can feel this working, so I know I’m in the experimental group and I know the drug works great.”

    If I were to apply your idea that you can’t mistrust someone else’s biases and beliefs about themself, then I would have to take their word and my science would be garbage.

    To adress your argument: the person is convinced they take an atheist position

    Yes, my question proved that very neatly, didn’t it? They didn’t think they had any belief in being an atheist, and that the final line of the original meme was therefore nonsense. But I used a very elegant question to prove that they do have belief in being an atheist.

    • KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      You seem fundamentally confused about this topic, unwilling to listen, and unequipped to further your understanding of neither crux, domain nor dialogue. We will not get further in this discussion.

      Best of luck in your endeavours.