• Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Writing papers is archaic and needs to go. College education needs to move with the times. Useful in doctorate work but everything below it can be skipped.

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      7 months ago

      Learning to write is how a person begins to organize their thoughts, be persuasive, and evaluate conflicting sources.

      It’s maybe the most important thing someone can learn.

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      The trouble is that if it’s skipped at lower levels doctorate students won’t know how to do it anymore.

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        Are they going to know how to do it now if they’re all just Chat GPTing it?

        Clearly we need some alternative mode to demonstrate mastery of subject matter, I’ve seen some folks suggesting we go back to pen and paper writing but part of me wonders if the right approach is to lean in and start teaching what they should be querying and how to check the output for correctness, but honestly that still necessitates being able to check if someone’s handing in something they worked on themself at all or if they just had something spit out their work for them.

        My mind goes to the oral defense, have students answer questions about what they’ve submitted to see if they’ve familiarized themselves with the subject matter prior to cooking up what they submitted, but that feels too unfair to students with stage anxiety, even if you limit these kinds of papers to only once a year per class or something. Maybe something more like an interview with accomodation for socially panickable students?

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      I’m in software engineering. One would think that English would be a useless class for my major, yet at work I still have to write a lot of documents. Either preparing new features, explaining existing, writing instructions for others etc

      BTW: with using AI to write essays, you generally have subject that is known and that many people write something similar, all of that was used to train it.

      With technical writing you are generally describe something that is brand new and very unique so you won’t be able to make AI write it for you.

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        When I come across a solid dev who is also a solid writer it’s like they have super powers. Being about to write effectively is so important.

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      7 months ago

      You can’t have kids go through school never writing papers and then get to graduate school and expected to churn out long, well written papers.