Please keep it civil.

  • Hastur@sh.itjust.worksM
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    1 year ago

    Representative Democracies have failed (are failing) like all other political ruling systems have failed so far. Some failed just faster than others that failed more catastrophically while some fail silently (agonizing). In the end all systems failed.

    • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Is your argument only that democratic republics will fail? Are you arguing that it would be better to implement democracy in a different way, or that it should be foregone altogether? I imagine most people would agree that they inevitably fail, but not that there is a better option.

      • Hastur@sh.itjust.worksM
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        1 year ago

        I intentionally wrote: representative democracies. I’m not aware of any ongoing implementation of complete direct democracy, not even in Switzerland so I can’t tell for those.

          • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.works
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            1 year ago

            I don’t think it’s representative democracy that is the problem per se. That said i would take your hypothetical 51% taking from the 49% over the current practical reality of the 1% voting to take from the 99%

          • Hastur@sh.itjust.worksM
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            1 year ago

            So what’s the alternative then? Representative democracies devolve into shit shows given sufficient amount of time. Dictatorships are horrible, council-led states (Sowjet) don’t work either… So what’s left?

            Anarchy doesn’t work either…

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                That hasn’t worked for North America, it’s not working in the EU and if I look at South America… no I won’t.

                  • Hastur@sh.itjust.worksM
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                    1 year ago

                    Wow there’s so much wrong with this:

                    The concept of a digital data processing machine was made by Charles Babbage, a mathematician from England.

                    The first phone was constructed by Italian engineer and inventor Antonio Meucci, Bell just got the patent for something that was being “invented” in several forms in previous years.

                    Karl Benz from Germany invented the automobile but it was already Leonardo Da Vinci who conceived the idea of mechanical vehicles. The French Nicolas Cugnot built the first steam propelled tractor/car in 1769.

                    The moon might be yours but only because the USA confiscated all the German knowledge about rockets and took the engineers like Wernher von Braun

                    If the US eliminated starvation is something I can’t deny nor confirm but you certainly invented the largest drug abuse crisis (opioids and derivatives) in the history of mankind. Oh and mass imprisonment is also an achievement that probably challenges China or North Korea.

                    Not sure about the progress aspect there, I have doubts. But one thing I know for sure: The US needs better education, it’s horrible how wrong you were.

    • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Wow, that is unpopular. I’ve been campaigning against republics for a long time, but I’ve never seen anyone agree.

      • Hastur@sh.itjust.worksM
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        Nowadays you can cause riots by saying: Humans come in XY and XX chromosomes by genetic program, the correct expression of this genetic program leads to male or female genitalia and there’s currently no medical or surgical procedure to change that, no matter how much you insist. So that was one notch less controversial.

        • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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          You can’t cause riots by saying that. Obviously you can’t literally change your dna. No one is trying to do that. What people are saying, is that gender, while related to sex, isn’t the same thing as sex. The meaning of the word is basically category, and if you look at other cultures, they often have more than 2 genders, and they are not related to or are only partially related to sex. That’s what people mean when they say gender is a social construct. Trans people are truly changing genders, not sexes. That’s why the term “transgender” is used.

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            1 year ago

            Sounds to me like they are recognizing the issue that gender is a construct, and making the issue worse by enforcing more made up social boxes to stuff things into, instead of recognizing and accepting the realities of sex and disrespecting gender as the oppressive tool it is. Just like how non-binary people who submit to their specific place in the trans story are enforcing the idea of two main boxes they fit between. I think the misstep in most languages development that pushed sex information/assumptions into pronouns has made it harder to think of things logically now. Someones genetic configuration have no relevance to the vast majority of communications. Unfortunately, I think this has cause bad people to enforce oppression and impacted peo people to create more fantasy that modifies the issue but doesn’t help it. I personally think the biggest danger in trans led communications is a lack of focus on looking to accept yourself as a physical being and disrespect what people expect from that, as a first step anyways. I think more steps beyond that are certainly good for some people. I think that sounds of the things trans people are advocating for is great for humans, but only because they’re the quickest way to get a slightly better quality of life using fantasy. I don’t know if eradicating the social constrains built into our very languages is as easy as creating fantasy social constraints that give more people more peace. It’s a difficult topic in my opinion.

            • sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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              I don’t know if eradicating the social constrains built into our very languages is as easy as creating fantasy social constraints that give more people more peace.

              It would be essentially impossible to convince people to just stop using gendered pronouns. Some languages already do this, like Turkish, but it introduces more problems. It becomes much more difficult to differentiate between people in conversation if you use the same pronouns for everyone. People who natively speak Turkish, and other languages like it, learn to structure their sentences in ways that make it clear who they are talking about without the use of gendered pronouns. So not only do you have to convince people to stop using those pronouns, you have to change the way they speak entirely.

              I think its a much better idea to have more than 2 genders, maybe 3 or 4, and randomly assign them at birth regardless of sex. This way you could differentiate between people even more effectively as well as remove the social constraints. This would also be extremely difficult and probably impossible to make happen, but I think its ideal.

              • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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                1 year ago

                We assign a random token at birth, that is used purely to identify you in conversations?

                That’s called a name my homie