• EfficaciousSkink@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Refusing medical treatment for a woman with a life-threatening pregnancy emergency is legal.

    Abortion is criminalized.

    (In select backwards states).

    • BigToe@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Abortion is legal and killing babies is celebrated.

      Being in favor of infants right to life and women’s choice to make decisions about their body until they make the choose to share their body with another human is criminalized.*

      Ftfy. Imagine being in favor of killing babies and thinking the side that wanted to kill infants because “women’s rights to kill babies even after birth in California” somehow trumps babies right to life isn’t an atrocity comparable to slavery.

        • TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee
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          The point is that you can only do an abortion in the early stages of a pregnancy. In those stages its realy just some cells that are starting to form something human like. So it’s not living.

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          Planet earth being full is one of the most common misconceptions. It’s staggering how many people believe this ignorantly without doing any research. In fact every person alive today could stand shoulder to shoulder and fit in New York city itself. Aside from that blatant misinformation how can a concept of space ever trump the protected value of human life? I would like some more room can I kill you and take what land you possess? That’s how the United States was formed after all, taking land from indigenous tribes so maybe you are onto something.

      • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Ok, I’ll bite. How many months after conception should abortion be legal?

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          That’s a very difficult question tbh my initial thoughts are less than 1 month. Abortion should not be used as birth control and obviously abortions that are necessary for either mothers safety or under dire circumstances like rape/underage etc… or severe instances of fetal health should all be legal much later as anatomy scans for babies health are needed to identify many serious deformities.

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            1 year ago

            I’m glad I asked. You have a more nuanced answer than I expected.

            Your reply made me curious. You’re supposed to abortions for birth control. But you say less than one month. Why not at conception and keep your exemptions for rape or medical emergencies?

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        Babies are a very convenient demographic to stand up for, since they can’t make demands. Women’s bodies are their own - if women want to get an abortion, that is their choice, and it is disgusting that people feel they should be able to tell them what to do with their wombs.

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          1 year ago

          Actually lol’d at this comment, saying a demographic that can’t speak for themselves is convenient lol

  • Gorilladrums@lemm.ee
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    This crappy meme also implies that morality is the opposite of legality, which is equally as stupid. Morals are based on values, and laws reflect these values. If laws don’t match the values of a society, then that’s when the question od morality comes up.