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      Oh imperialist expansionism forced Russia to invade a soverign country huh?

      But no go ahead and keep purity testing, see how that works for you.

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          And a real democratic socialist thinks russian imperialism is… Good? I mean you can’t even pretend Ukraine is NATO’s fault because they’ve been invading neighbors for over 20 years.

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              OK, I’ll let you have it because I have a separate question.

              So in the ideal socialist land where nato disbands and the US is no longer the world police… Who stops Russia?

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                  Ukraine could still get help from Europe and America without NATO.

                  Nope, America slashed military spending and can only defend their continental holdings. Europe has to cover it all. Wait does that make them imperialist now?

                  If China and the BRICS countries formed a military defensive alliance to secure their interests through trade, would Vaush be in support of that kind of imperialism? If the answer is No, then, why?

                  I don’t like vaush enough to defend him across a whole thread. But personally I don’t think you can use a defensive alliance to invade soverign countries without provocation, which is what I assume the end state would be if BRICS formed a military alliance.

                  Also let’s pretend Iraq didn’t happen. That one’s on Bush.

                  People act like nato is some crazy imperialist project that the US psyops countries into wanting to join, when in reality they just want access to weaponry and protection from Russia. Sweden joined up fast after Ukraine got invaded. Poland ordered a shitload of HIMARS as well. Russia acts like all its neighbors seeking security from invasion (Chechnya twice, Georgia, Ukraine) is some grand plan to encircle them and… Invade?